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Post by Lugia on Jul 18, 2019 4:10:33 GMT
...which brings up another module that the AE will eventually need: an envelope follower. If we're starting to consider inputting instruments into the AE, that'll be necessary to give some expressive nuance to the synth's processing, such as sending level CV to the final VCA, sending gate and/or trigger signals to fire other things such as EGs, etc, and the like.
Plus, if we get a filterbank module, well...envelope followers have a certain (coughcough...vocoder) use with filterbanks and slew limiters and those sorts of things. The idea of being able to build a bespoke vocoder with the economical AE hardware...could be fun!
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Post by wavebender on Jul 29, 2019 13:20:19 GMT
Greetingz,
- A module creating wavetable noise like the things Beast Tek builds - A digital wave creator with all kind of crazy waveforms - A modulation source something like Mutable Instruments - Something like the Erica Synth voice and Erica Synth VCO/LFO with a lot of different wave shapes
Not the excect same modules but EA interpretations of this kind of eurorack stuff.
i'm getting greedy already
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Post by spacedog on Jul 29, 2019 14:15:39 GMT
Greetingz,
- A module creating wavetable noise like the things Beast Tek builds - A digital wave creator with all kind of crazy waveforms - A modulation source something like Mutable Instruments - Something like the Erica Synth voice and Erica Synth VCO/LFO with a lot of different wave shapes
Not the excect same modules but EA interpretations of this kind of eurorack stuff.
i'm getting greedy already Building on this... a really nice module would be one like the MI Plaits that has been ported into the Arturia MicroFreak. Their implementation is a simple four-knob control system, with some routing via a modulation matrix. Something like that would be a very smart little module that I could imagine selling very well
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Post by Gaëtan on Aug 1, 2019 13:18:24 GMT
I was thinking that a very useful thing would be an LFO whose frequency is voltage-controllable, and would offer several different waveshapes, a bit like the Zone B.F from Eowave. Incidentally I stumbled upon that chip, which would make an awesome base for that : electricdruid.net/product/vclfo-10/
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Post by bahm on Aug 1, 2019 13:33:52 GMT
I was thinking that a very useful thing would be an LFO whose frequency is voltage-controllable, and would offer several different waveshapes, a bit like the Zone B.F from Eowave. Incidentally I stumbled upon that chip, which would make an awesome base for that : electricdruid.net/product/vclfo-10/
This chip and the digital vco are the diy things I am going to make. Surprise destroyed. Already ordered them. They work with 0 to 5V.
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Post by Lugia on Aug 2, 2019 5:52:51 GMT
Another thing popped into my head yesterday...a joystick.
Now, no, I don't simply mean some sort of large X-Y-type stick like Doepfer's etc...I got inspired by the little joystick on the front panel of my Wavestation A/D. This is a very small thing, but still quite capable of being used as a controller, and the form factor would fit in nicely with the AE format.
But why stop there, hm? What if, instead of outputting only the X and Y axis voltages, this _also_ had something like Ladik's J-011 Joystick Math module ( ladik.ladik.eu/?page_id=86 ) incorporated? Granted, Ladik's implementation does a few things that are no-nos in AE (most notably, negative CV values), but this could be worked around by employing a bit of extra circuitry to voltage-limit the various outputs. So, say you had an X value of 2V, a Y value of 3V, and you patched the "X - Y" output to something...well, this would result in an output of -1V, which might be fine in Eurorack but not here. However, if you constrained the voltage levels so that 0V and +5V were the maximum allowable, sort of like how the NS-1's "safe" outputs have similar voltage constraints, this would work. Not quite the same as the Ladik J-011, mind you, but the functionality would still be present.
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Post by pol on Aug 2, 2019 16:45:28 GMT
Another thing popped into my head yesterday...a joystick.
2nd the joystick idea, just so much more fun, and versatile than a mod wheel... be good if it had its own LFO that you could control the amount via the joystick, but a frequency knob elsewhere on the module. Even better, a voltage input for frequency which you could connect one of the outs on the joystick so control amount and frequency - oh er missus.
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Post by bahm on Aug 2, 2019 19:55:54 GMT
Another thing popped into my head yesterday...a joystick.
2nd the joystick idea, just so much more fun, and versatile than a mod wheel... be good if it had its own LFO that you could control the amount via the joystick, but a frequency knob elsewhere on the module. Even better, a voltage input for frequency which you could connect one of the outs on the joystick so control amount and frequency - oh er missus. Yes I mentioned a joystick some time ago too. Wavestation mixer style mode as bonus would be cool. Also CV, Mode and attenuator. Choosable for the axisses ore 4 directions independently. Even better would it be if it could save and repeat the movement and reset to the start by sync input.
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Post by admin on Aug 4, 2019 1:00:08 GMT
2nd the joystick idea, just so much more fun, and versatile than a mod wheel... be good if it had its own LFO that you could control the amount via the joystick, but a frequency knob elsewhere on the module. Even better, a voltage input for frequency which you could connect one of the outs on the joystick so control amount and frequency - oh er missus. Yes I mentioned a joystick some time ago too. Wavestation mixer style mode as bonus would be cool. Also CV, Mode and attenuator. Choosable for the axisses ore 4 directions independently. Even better would it be if it could save and repeat the movement and reset to the start by sync input. Maybe this could be built as a DIY module? I just saw this on AliExpress: www.aliexpress.com/item/32802668332.html
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Post by bahm on Aug 4, 2019 8:04:48 GMT
Yes I mentioned a joystick some time ago too. Wavestation mixer style mode as bonus would be cool. Also CV, Mode and attenuator. Choosable for the axisses ore 4 directions independently. Even better would it be if it could save and repeat the movement and reset to the start by sync input. Maybe this could be built as a DIY module? I just saw this on AliExpress: www.aliexpress.com/item/32802668332.htmlI can't see this itembecauseit's unavailable.Maybe because of my region but I think you posted something like this one: exploreembedded.com/wiki/Analog_JoyStick_with_Arduino
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Post by admin on Aug 4, 2019 8:40:30 GMT
Strange, I tested this link and it always worked for me even in incognito mode ... but yes, that is the Arduino Joystick that I linked to.
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Post by rodney on Aug 4, 2019 12:24:38 GMT
I have one or two of those in the parts box somewhere and also some larger ones.
The little ones like the one linked above always have a spring to return them to center position. It is fiddly but possible to partially dismantle one and remove the springs so the joystick will remain in position. However, the ones I have thus dismembered are very loose afterward and I have yet to find a neat way of reintroducing friction.
I'll post to the DIY section when I get these out and AEify them.
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Post by jumpinjohnathon on Aug 5, 2019 10:15:40 GMT
After watching "THE TUESDAY NIGHT MACHINES" past couple of video's on YouTube, I think (although probably ambitious) that Robert should look into the no-longer made AnyWare TINYSIZER Modular Synth (or even the smaller MiniSizer Modular Synth).
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Post by NightMachines on Aug 5, 2019 10:36:54 GMT
After watching "THE TUESDAY NIGHT MACHINES" past couple of video's on YouTube, I think (although probably ambitious) that Robert should look into the no-longer made AnyWare TINYSIZER Modular Synth (or even the smaller MiniSizer Modular Synth).
Thanks for the shoutout! What do you mean by “look into”? When it comes to features then AE Modular is already almost there on paper, providing all modules in the Tinysizer and Minisizer apart from a voltage-controlled LFO and a slew limiter (both of which are coming). The sound of the Tinysizer is definitely special though. I haven’t heard from Tommy/Anyware in a while, but maybe Robert could license the Tinysizer’s filter from him. Then again, we already have three AE Modular filters and there are a lot of other modules in the pipeline that would have a higher priority I’d say.
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Post by thetechnobear on Aug 8, 2019 12:23:23 GMT
midi extensions: not sure if this is a new module or not.... or just an extension to the master module... #1 - support for pitchbend, this should not be an extra output, rather it should just be used for the v/oct output. there probably needs to be a switch or knob to set pitchbend range. (though as a quick update, without hardware change, to the master module this could be hardcoded to +/- 2 semitones) #2 - sustain pedal support no hardware change, just change midi implementation to support CC64 to hold the gate active. #3 - mod wheel I think it can be argued that CC1 should be used for bus ctrl, since almost every keyboard has it perhaps a dip switch on the back? to switch between CC 20 and CC 1 #4 - support for additional CC more outputs for more CC....to allow greater modulation possibilities aftertouch would also be really useful... perhaps a switch to allow one of the CC channels to be switched to AFT. #5 switchable midi channels not just 1 or omni, id like to be able to select different midi channels , say 1 to 4. #6 TRS midi Type A on master module, would be great if there could be a dip switch on the back, to switch between type A and B. ... given the MMA has now adopted A as the standard, seems this is the future - but retaining backwards compatibly for arturia/novation support seems useful. #7 USB Midi support
not sure of best approach , perhaps its should be a new module that gives additional outputs/functionality I think probably what Id do is (and Im considering as a DIY module ) a new midi controller module: (has an arduino in to do the midi stuff) inputs: TRS A, USB, midi channel, pitchbend range, midi modes switches outputs : pitch, gate + 3 other ctrl outputs (midi modes : poly allocation , mpe, multi channel) midi 'slave module', this is connected to a midi controller module round the back (using i2c?) outputs : pitch, gate + 3 other ctrl outputs midi slave modules can be chained... so you can have multiple. note all logic is done on the midi controller module, it decides how to allocate voices, and also the mapping of the 3 ctrl outputs with this setup AE would be able to support a vast number of controllers out of the box, including MPE... it would support both polyphonic or 'multi-timbral' operation.
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Post by Gaëtan on Aug 15, 2019 6:37:52 GMT
A knobless CV manipulation à la MI Kinks :
INS : CV 1 CV 2 N/A
CV A CV B N/A CV X CV Y
OUTS 1 : Dual buffered multiple CV 1 x4 CV 2 x4
OUTS 2 : CV Manipulation CV A Inverted CV A half-wave rectified around 2.5V, minus a 2.5V offset so that the low part sits at 0V CV A full-wave rectified around 2.5V N/A Same for CV B
(note : could be nice to have 2 switches to decide to invert all the outputs of CVA and CVB)
OUTS 3 : Min/Max CV X/Y Min x4 CV X/Y Max x4
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Post by Gaëtan on Aug 15, 2019 6:41:53 GMT
Also a proper dual attenuator/inverter/offset would be really great (so basically simply adding an offset button to the 2ATT/CV)
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Post by NightMachines on Aug 15, 2019 6:52:55 GMT
A knobless CV manipulation à la MI Kinks : Sounds like a nice DIY project
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Post by Lugia on Aug 15, 2019 23:56:02 GMT
A knobless CV manipulation à la MI Kinks :
INS : CV 1 CV 2 N/A
CV A CV B N/A CV X CV Y
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OUTS 3 : Min/Max CV X/Y Min x4 CV X/Y Max x4
Or perhaps something along these lines: INS - CV1, CV2, open, CV A, CV B, CV X, CV Y, CV _Z_ . The Min/Max discriminator might be even more interesting as a three-way "voter" with some options. With that, you could then do X/Y, X/Z, Y/Z and X/Y/Z as individual minimum and maximum outs.
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Post by moruial on Aug 20, 2019 11:04:47 GMT
LFO with a sine wave and inverted ramp.
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Post by bahm on Aug 20, 2019 12:03:07 GMT
LFO with a sine wave and inverted ramp. These are the waveforms from the digital electric druid lfo ic. It's easy to build a diy module as it works with 0 to 5V like ae. It's just plug and play.
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Post by rodney on Aug 20, 2019 16:55:48 GMT
LFO with a sine wave and inverted ramp. These are the waveforms from the digital electric druid lfo ic. It's easy to build a diy module as it works with 0 to 5V like ae. It's just plug and play. Oooh!
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Post by rodney on Aug 20, 2019 17:03:23 GMT
Something like this would be fun:
A Strämpler for streaming samples form SD card. Based on the ESP32 chip (something arduino-like but with more processing grunt and built-in WiFi and bluetooth!). I am tempted to try something ESP32-based in DIY form later on.
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Post by moruial on Aug 20, 2019 18:29:57 GMT
LFO with a sine wave and inverted ramp. These are the waveforms from the digital electric druid lfo ic. It's easy to build a diy module as it works with 0 to 5V like ae. It's just plug and play. Looks interesting, but as I can't read shcematic and don't know jack about electronic DIY it'll be hard to do it for me
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Post by bahm on Aug 20, 2019 21:02:06 GMT
It would be the perfect beginners project after NightMachines let's diy together projects. I am building one after my holiday if my parts arrive.
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