frix
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Post by frix on Sept 10, 2020 22:55:14 GMT
Aaaaaand
you can use the novation launchpad as a controller!
MEGA💣
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Post by sampletne on Sept 16, 2020 14:03:18 GMT
Expert Sleepers ES-8/9 in AE Modular format would be a gamechanger!!! AE Modular with VCV Rack will open new dimension  |
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Post by funbun on Sept 16, 2020 14:09:30 GMT
So, what is a VCV Rack? Is that another system?
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Post by spacedog on Sept 16, 2020 14:11:21 GMT
So, what is a VCV Rack? Is that another system? Eurorack in software here. |
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Jihel
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Post by Jihel on Sept 16, 2020 16:16:28 GMT
VCV Rack is a great free software. Many (too many ?) interesting modules. But, beware!, it eats a lot of your time... |
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Lugia
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Post by Lugia on Sept 17, 2020 1:18:57 GMT
So, what is a VCV Rack? Is that another system? It's billed as a "Eurorack simulator", and it does do a good job of that. However, it's not a 100% accurate representation, because some VCV modules do things that really only work in software on a computer. However, since you can bridge from it to actual hardware via a few different methods, some of the "software-only" things can theoretically be used with actual hardware.
One caveat: you'd better have a machine with a howlin' fast processor and lots of cores, as some VCV modules are really bad about sucking up processor cycles. However, most of the system is multithreaded now; earlier versions would run only on ONE core, which sucked about as much as you might figure it does.
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Post by lukylutte on Oct 13, 2020 10:54:39 GMT
Is there any idea about an envelop follower? I know it's on the first page list. However it haven't been updated in a year!? Should it be cleanup as many are now available? Would be nice to get a few update as the sunrise is gone... It's basically the last key component missing for me.. Might be able to get a work around with slew/edge or a grains code?
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Post by anthonymd303 on Nov 1, 2020 2:31:19 GMT
Definitely a Turing Machine. I'd also like to see something like Mutible Instruments Branches.
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Post by admin on Nov 1, 2020 3:40:32 GMT
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Post by funbun on Nov 4, 2020 16:17:43 GMT
- Chaos Generator
- Comparator
- Random LFO
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namke
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Post by namke on Nov 4, 2020 23:03:46 GMT
- Chaos Generator
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- Random LFO
How slow should an LFO go? I am just finalising the firmware for the rbss and currently lowest frequency for the internal clock is about 0.5Hz (e.g. one bit shift every 2 seconds). Obviously you can run that clock through a divider to go slower… I think another demo video is needed! |
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Post by funbun on Nov 4, 2020 23:23:35 GMT
SWEET! Let us know when you release the rbss. I might buy a pair of 'em!
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Post by admin on Nov 4, 2020 23:28:28 GMT
- Chaos Generator
- Comparator
- Random LFO
How slow should an LFO go? I am just finalising the firmware for the rbss and currently lowest frequency for the internal clock is about 0.5Hz (e.g. one bit shift every 2 seconds). Obviously you can run that clock through a divider to go slower… I think another demo video is needed! Clock is different from LFO though. While it's nice to have a really slow clock to trigger things seconds or even minutes apart, a very slow proper LFO with different waveforms would be able to slowly change filters, amplitudes and pitches, etc. I'm looking with envy at this module in VCVrack which offers seconds, minutes, hours and even days and weeks for the wave cycle. library.vcvrack.com/FrozenWasteland/SeriouslySlowLFO |
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Lugia
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Post by Lugia on Nov 4, 2020 23:57:57 GMT
LFOs these days need to run VERY slowly when possible. In fact, it might be sensible to classify these ultra-slow LFOs as something like "period generators", since you're getting beyond the realm of "frequency domain" once you're in the sub-Hertz range.
That being said, having SPECIFIC period generators might be interesting, instead of hoping that an LFO can get down into that range. Something that starts at, say 2 Hz and then gets down into the ranges where you see things like the 4ms PEG or Mutable's Tides, out in the multi-minute to hour lengths. Useful for creating slow audible variation, true...but consider also how you could use one with a few comparators to start/stop different processes, or to make incremental changes to other parameters. So, yeah, for generative work, that ultra-slow range is GOLD.
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Post by MaxRichardson97 on Nov 5, 2020 0:05:53 GMT
LFOs these days need to run VERY slowly when possible. In fact, it might be sensible to classify these ultra-slow LFOs as something like "period generators", since you're getting beyond the realm of "frequency domain" once you're in the sub-Hertz range.
That being said, having SPECIFIC period generators might be interesting, instead of hoping that an LFO can get down into that range. Something that starts at, say 2 Hz and then gets down into the ranges where you see things like the 4ms PEG or Mutable's Tides, out in the multi-minute to hour lengths. Useful for creating slow audible variation, true...but consider also how you could use one with a few comparators to start/stop different processes, or to make incremental changes to other parameters. So, yeah, for generative work, that ultra-slow range is GOLD.
This is a bit of a stupid question, but how is that useful? I'm not attacking anyone of course, I just can't possibly imagine needing an LFO to go that slowly! What would they be used for? Just ultra slow variations of the usual things - filter, VCA etc.? |
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Post by funbun on Nov 5, 2020 4:33:19 GMT
MaxRichardson97 , it's basically John Cage. Some pieces of music have been written to go on for centuries: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2728595.stmI was wanting a random LFO more than a super slow LFO. Guessing the Polamix + 3 LFO inputs can accomplish this. Polamix plus the rbss should prove interesting as well.
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namke
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Post by namke on Nov 5, 2020 8:09:20 GMT
MaxRichardson97 , it's basically John Cage. Some pieces of music have been written to go on for centuries: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2728595.stmI was wanting a random LFO more than a super slow LFO. Guessing the Polamix + 3 LFO inputs can accomplish this. Polamix plus the rbss should prove interesting as well. Thinking about this, and depending upon whether you want a repeating pattern or not, you could use the S&H module triggered 'slowly' to get a random non-repeating 'LFO'? Mixing LFOs with differing periods would also work as you said |
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namke
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Post by namke on Nov 5, 2020 8:10:42 GMT
How slow should an LFO go? I am just finalising the firmware for the rbss and currently lowest frequency for the internal clock is about 0.5Hz (e.g. one bit shift every 2 seconds). Obviously you can run that clock through a divider to go slower… I think another demo video is needed! Clock is different from LFO though. While it's nice to have a really slow clock to trigger things seconds or even minutes apart, a very slow proper LFO with different waveforms would be able to slowly change filters, amplitudes and pitches, etc. I'm looking with envy at this module in VCVrack which offers seconds, minutes, hours and even days and weeks for the wave cycle. library.vcvrack.com/FrozenWasteland/SeriouslySlowLFO Yes, I was thinking more along the lines of the 'random LFO' comment -- a slow trigger would just indicate that the LFO would need to move to the next 'random value'... |
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Post by Gaëtan on Nov 5, 2020 8:31:24 GMT
LFOs in modular need to have a period of at least one minute. One must have is frequency modulation. This way you can have 2 LFOs cross-modulate each other and get chaotic modulation, which is in my opinion more useful than purely random.
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Post by tIB on Nov 5, 2020 8:50:20 GMT
LFOs in modular need to have a period of at least one minute. One must have is frequency modulation. This way you can have 2 LFOs cross-modulate each other and get chaotic modulation, which is in my opinion more useful than purely random. Tend to agree with this - modulatable LFOs is something I'm really missing in ae along with being able to slow them down. Ive wondered if the is a way to hack the osc to run at much slower rates? |
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Post by arti on Nov 5, 2020 10:10:02 GMT
MaxRichardson97 , it's basically John Cage. Some pieces of music have been written to go on for centuries: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2728595.stmI was wanting a random LFO more than a super slow LFO. Guessing the Polamix + 3 LFO inputs can accomplish this. Polamix plus the rbss should prove interesting as well. Hmm what about using 2 LFOs (each normal and inverted )and sending them to 4ATT/mix where You may attenuate all four of them manualy, and to spice things up You may send four individual outputs to 3VCSwitch to switch between them at different rates (by SEQ64) and mix the output (in 4x4mixer or even multi) before sending it to it's final destination? To make it even more crazy You may sync the LFOs (to other SEQ64 channels) independently. |
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Post by Gaëtan on Nov 5, 2020 10:13:58 GMT
MaxRichardson97 , it's basically John Cage. Some pieces of music have been written to go on for centuries: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2728595.stmI was wanting a random LFO more than a super slow LFO. Guessing the Polamix + 3 LFO inputs can accomplish this. Polamix plus the rbss should prove interesting as well. Hmm what about using 2 LFOs (each normal and inverted )and sending them to 4ATT/mix where You may attenuate all four of them manualy, and to spice things up You may send four individual outputs to 3VCSwitch to switch between them at different rates (by SEQ64) and mix the output (in 4x4mixer or even multi) before sending it to it's final destination? To make it even more crazy You may sync the LFOs (to other SEQ64 channels) independently. "So, what does your rack sound like ? -What sound ? I only patch LFOs"
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Post by MaxRichardson97 on Nov 5, 2020 10:16:06 GMT
LFOs in modular need to have a period of at least one minute. One must have is frequency modulation. This way you can have 2 LFOs cross-modulate each other and get chaotic modulation, which is in my opinion more useful than purely random. Tend to agree with this - modulatable LFOs is something I'm really missing in ae along with being able to slow them down. Ive wondered if the is a way to hack the osc to run at much slower rates? Big tip I've discovered for this - patch the end out of an env into its own gate! Then boom, CV controllable A/D - even more fun using 2 ENVs together, or adjusting with slew! |
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Post by arti on Nov 5, 2020 10:17:51 GMT
Hmm what about using 2 LFOs (each normal and inverted )and sending them to 4ATT/mix where You may attenuate all four of them manualy, and to spice things up You may send four individual outputs to 3VCSwitch to switch between them at different rates (by SEQ64) and mix the output (in 4x4mixer or even multi) before sending it to it's final destination? To make it even more crazy You may sync the LFOs (to other SEQ64 channels) independently. "So, what does your rack sound like ? -What sound ? I only patch LFOs"
Haha, and that's the beauty of modular world - You can do it Your way  |
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Post by tIB on Nov 5, 2020 13:27:04 GMT
Hmm what about using 2 LFOs (each normal and inverted )and sending them to 4ATT/mix where You may attenuate all four of them manualy, and to spice things up You may send four individual outputs to 3VCSwitch to switch between them at different rates (by SEQ64) and mix the output (in 4x4mixer or even multi) before sending it to it's final destination? To make it even more crazy You may sync the LFOs (to other SEQ64 channels) independently. "So, what does your rack sound like ? -What sound ? I only patch LFOs"
I rinsed an album out of this approach on the bugbrand modular - therapyinterferingbehaviour.bandcamp.com/album/icina |
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