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Post by slowscape on Oct 18, 2021 18:40:44 GMT
Any news on a dedicated midi module? Something that might split signals/channels into cv (similar to the CV.OCD) would be ideal! The question is, do I get a CV.OCD, or is a midi module close enough to production for me to wait it out  |
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Post by pol on Oct 18, 2021 19:10:32 GMT
I hadn't heard about the CV.OCG. I have had bad experiences with Midi/CV interfaces but this device looks brilliant. The fact you can select how it works/what's triggered, have it set up and then just use it would be perfect for me. Now on my shopping list....
I suspect an AE module would not be this complex, although we are heading there with TBD, Cirrus etc.!
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Post by namke on Oct 18, 2021 19:27:18 GMT
Deep in the wonkystuff notebook I have a kind-of-plan for MIDI things… but I'm not sure how imminent anything will be! It'll be interesting to see if anything is in the Tangible Waves pipeline!
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Oct 18, 2021 22:00:51 GMT
I remember Robert saying he was working on it when there was interest (maybe it was on FB even?). Think that was some months ago.
It would kinda be a gamechanger for me tbh. As you know I love my Digitakt, and that machine has EIGHT Midi track outputs. Just imagining these eight tracks, steering different AE voices, and multitracking these voices with the 4I/0 AND having eight more audio tracks on Digitakt. Tbh I would love to make a full EP with just that setup.
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Post by pt3r on Oct 19, 2021 6:26:07 GMT
So far I don't miss a multichannel midi interface but that has probably to do with the fact that I have now worked out a cv sequencing workflow that fits my needs. I can build full tracks within the modular system where external gear would probably distort ideas or dillute focus. The same reason why working with daws does not really work for me; too many options and menu diving. AE can be mostly wysiwyg which I love along with the patching problem solving; electronic Zazen or something.
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Post by robertlanger on Oct 19, 2021 8:47:06 GMT
In fact, an advanced MIDI-to-CV module is quite high in my priority list; I'd estimate it to be available first quarter of 2022. The plan is as following: - Basically a 4-channel module - Either 4-voice poly or separate midi channels as "mono-CV" - configurable root note(s) - 4 additional CV channels for velocity or MIDI controllers - a Breakout module for additional CV / gate channels / more controllers What are your ideas / wishes? It's the perfect moment now to discuss this  |
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Post by lukylutte on Oct 19, 2021 9:25:24 GMT
That's would be great!
4 channels with gate, pitch, velocity and or cc value (if could either set the value 0-127 and/or midi learn).
Maybe an expender for channel 10 (or selectable) for drums with midi note to trigger/gate outputs.
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Post by lukylutte on Oct 19, 2021 9:30:14 GMT
But does this new module will send information on the buss? Or only the master can? Meaning master clock and an extra channel need to be done via the master module?
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Post by slowscape on Oct 19, 2021 13:39:05 GMT
In fact, an advanced MIDI-to-CV module is quite high in my priority list; I'd estimate it to be available first quarter of 2022. Ok, I'm waiting. I'm not super deep in the midi world, so I'll defer all my suggestions to keurslagerkurt  Looking forward to sequencing my AEM with ORCA 
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Oct 19, 2021 14:14:28 GMT
In fact, an advanced MIDI-to-CV module is quite high in my priority list; I'd estimate it to be available first quarter of 2022. The plan is as following: - Basically a 4-channel module - Either 4-voice poly or separate midi channels as "mono-CV" - configurable root note(s) - 4 additional CV channels for velocity or MIDI controllers - a Breakout module for additional CV / gate channels / more controllers What are your ideas / wishes? It's the perfect moment now to discuss this Very VERY happy to hear this!!  The plan sounds very nice for me already. I'm not an expert in MIDI implementation, but these are my first thoughts: - The more channels, the more fun. So four basic channels + a breakout to get to 8 would be perfect for me! - Maybe, as Lukylutte said, some simpler drum channels expander would be fine to. Just receiving triggers and a velocity but no other data would be fine. 4 'melodic' voices and 4 'drum' voices would be perfect for me. - It would be great if there was one or more CV outputs on the module as well. Much like the 'cv 20' of the master output. Its a lot of fun to control a parameter (eg filter cutoff) with my Digitakt. - I'm not sure how doable that is, but I think MIDI over USB is also very nice. So you could just connect AE over USB MIDI to your computer and record in sync in your DAW. |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Oct 19, 2021 14:15:00 GMT
In fact, an advanced MIDI-to-CV module is quite high in my priority list; I'd estimate it to be available first quarter of 2022. Ok, I'm waiting. I'm not super deep in the midi world, so I'll defer all my suggestions to keurslagerkurt Looking forward to sequencing my AEM with ORCA
I have no clue whats happening, but i dig it wow! |
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Post by slowscape on Oct 19, 2021 14:57:57 GMT
Oh yeah, I second what Kurt said! midi via usb could be really nice, then I wouldn't need to run it through my usb-midi converter
Also, ORCA is really cool. "Esoteric programming language" is what they call it. Looks confusing, looks pretty, makes sense after a while |
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Post by pol on Oct 19, 2021 19:09:31 GMT
In fact, an advanced MIDI-to-CV module is quite high in my priority list; I'd estimate it to be available first quarter of 2022. The plan is as following: - Basically a 4-channel module - Either 4-voice poly or separate midi channels as "mono-CV" - configurable root note(s) - 4 additional CV channels for velocity or MIDI controllers - a Breakout module for additional CV / gate channels / more controllers What are your ideas / wishes? It's the perfect moment now to discuss this Very pleased and excited to read this! Being able to play a chord over midi and generate the trigger/CVs on the module is one main job. Being able to have 2 (or more) separate midi channels produce CVs would be another.... (Can be different operational modes), be nice if one midi channel was polyphonic (2 or 3 CV outs) so 1 CV out always available for bass/lead sound. Being able to use midi CC messages other than just 20 would be really good - for CVs and triggers. Recognising Midi stop/start/resume would be helpful for syncing sequencer modules etc. (know stop/start is around already) when on 1 midi channel, being able to select the mode that the CV outputs are assigned would make the unit more flexible - round robin/overflow from 1 to 2 to3 etc., all (unison) and so on. If feasible "midi FX" would be nice - repeats/looping/chord produced from a single key/arpeggiator etc. (hold pedal input?), anything else that can "warp" the keyboard/midi sequencer playing! Love the sound of the breakout module to expand as well. I feel another case is going to be required in 2022! |
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Post by robertlanger on Oct 20, 2021 8:25:46 GMT
But does this new module will send information on the buss? Or only the master can? Meaning master clock and an extra channel need to be done via the master module? The plan is to make it configurable (connect the lines to the bus); although this means that the MASTER's bus connections have to be disconnected... I will find a solution for this. |
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Post by robertlanger on Oct 20, 2021 8:33:00 GMT
In the feature list, I forgot that USB-MIDI will also be available :-)
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Post by Kyaa on Oct 20, 2021 21:26:05 GMT
In the feature list, I forgot that USB-MIDI will also be available :-) I have an Akai MPK Mini MK3 that unfortunately only has USB out. It would be crazy-cool if this hypothetical midi module was also able to act as a USB midi _host_. |
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Post by Kyaa on Oct 20, 2021 21:27:04 GMT
What are your ideas / wishes? It's the perfect moment now to discuss this Let the midi TRS input be selectable between type A and B. 😁 |
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Post by solipsistnation on Oct 20, 2021 22:59:35 GMT
In fact, an advanced MIDI-to-CV module is quite high in my priority list; I'd estimate it to be available first quarter of 2022. The plan is as following: - Basically a 4-channel module - Either 4-voice poly or separate midi channels as "mono-CV" - configurable root note(s) - 4 additional CV channels for velocity or MIDI controllers - a Breakout module for additional CV / gate channels / more controllers What are your ideas / wishes? It's the perfect moment now to discuss this I'd like something like the Korg Mono/Poly's approach to polyphonics, where you have a choice of stacking oscillators when you hold down keys or stepping through them on each keypress. So you could have say 4 CV/trigger outputs and in stacking mode you'd always trigger output 1 first, then if you hold down 2 keys, you get output 1 and 2, and so on. In step mode, with each keypress it would trigger output 1, then 2, then 3, then 4 and back to 1. That would be a blast to play with. 8) |
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Post by S&E on Oct 22, 2021 20:12:25 GMT
This is cool and I can see why people want it, but for me it is secondary to a native AE multitrack recorder (perhaps attachment to the AE mixer).
I realize the power of something like cv.ocd but personally I have enough gate/cv sequencer capability where I don’t really need this. I would get it if it became available though, as I would Cirrus and multitrack AE recorder in a heartbeat.
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Post by temel on Oct 16, 2022 0:09:56 GMT
In fact, an advanced MIDI-to-CV module is quite high in my priority list; I'd estimate it to be available first quarter of 2022. The plan is as following: - Basically a 4-channel module - Either 4-voice poly or separate midi channels as "mono-CV" - configurable root note(s) - 4 additional CV channels for velocity or MIDI controllers - a Breakout module for additional CV / gate channels / more controllers What are your ideas / wishes? It's the perfect moment now to discuss this Dear Mr. Langer, Could MPE be implemented and supported in the MIDI-to-CV module? Thank you for your wonderful work! |
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Post by tIB on Oct 16, 2022 8:13:03 GMT
In fact, an advanced MIDI-to-CV module is quite high in my priority list; I'd estimate it to be available first quarter of 2022. The plan is as following: - Basically a 4-channel module - Either 4-voice poly or separate midi channels as "mono-CV" - configurable root note(s) - 4 additional CV channels for velocity or MIDI controllers - a Breakout module for additional CV / gate channels / more controllers What are your ideas / wishes? It's the perfect moment now to discuss this Dear Mr. Langer, Could MPE be implemented and supported in the MIDI-to-CV module? Thank you for your wonderful work! That would be something I'd be interested in too. |
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Post by dizzeesatchel on Oct 16, 2022 14:16:41 GMT
USB midi in would be incredible for us Orca-heads. i'm itching for this module!
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Post by robertlanger on Oct 16, 2022 15:20:11 GMT
OMG, NOOO... ONE YEAR has passed since I was talking big about the MIDI module  Time to tackle it!!
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Post by robertlanger on Oct 16, 2022 15:24:00 GMT
In fact, an advanced MIDI-to-CV module is quite high in my priority list; I'd estimate it to be available first quarter of 2022. The plan is as following: - Basically a 4-channel module - Either 4-voice poly or separate midi channels as "mono-CV" - configurable root note(s) - 4 additional CV channels for velocity or MIDI controllers - a Breakout module for additional CV / gate channels / more controllers What are your ideas / wishes? It's the perfect moment now to discuss this Dear Mr. Langer, Could MPE be implemented and supported in the MIDI-to-CV module? Thank you for your wonderful work! Oh yes, MPE should be absolutely doable! I'd appreciate suggestions how it should / could work in the scenario of a basically 4-channel module witch some extra CV outs (let's say 8). |
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Post by tIB on Oct 16, 2022 15:54:48 GMT
So I have a modular more setup by way of expert sleepers fh1 plus expanders. It's not entirely trivial, though definitely doable... Rogers page is a great starting point here btw: www.rogerlinndesign.com/support/support-linnstrument-what-is-mpeSo, for MPE in the modular essentially you need: Round robin allocation, with a midi channel per voice. (The controller is where this is handled really). Per voice CV (with bend integrated @ preferably +/-48 semitones), gate, aftertouch and Y axis data on CC74. I run 3 voices normally in my config, where each voice is (unless I'm forgetting something) 4 outputs per midi channel. So for four voice poly, 16 outs in total are required. Where it gets slightly more complicated is that the expert sleepers software adds a USB host (needed imho, otherwise you are tethered to din midi which is slower and not available on some controllers) and smoothing options over the data received, without which was steppy/not so useable (with the fh1 at least). If you want any further information robert don't hesitate to give me a shout - I've a couple of mpe controllers here and a bit of experience now in setting them up with modular so happy to be of any help I can be. |
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Time to tackle it!!