Manually Patched Trigger Delay?

I'm not sure that would work . After a pulse has been through the delay it is probably no longer "square enough" to be considered a pulse.

But it's worth a try.

I would try to make a very short squarewave "ping" sound, run it through the delay, and see if the delayed sound is actually able to act as a trigger. Of course the repeat on the delay should allow for only one repetition of the original sound.

There might be a way to make the logic module "resquare" a sound that has been through the delay, but that is at best a semi qualified guess. 

Had to try it, it actually works.

So sqrwave from vco -> VCA   drive VCA with very short gate from env / ADSR    Output from VCA -> Delay (feedback all counterclockwise, wet/dry all clockwise) then output from delay used to clock TRIQ64 - works!

If you need to "regenerate" the delayed pulse you can use the logic module, 5V into 1A, delayed pulse into 1B take "reshaped" pulse from AND output.

So "come out" :

Mikael / MikMo

EDIT:


Small clarification here:



So the LFO that triggers the ADSR / ENV is the original pulse and the output of the delay is the delayed pulse.



I did not try to run the LFO directly to the delay, i doubt it will work, but.....

Isn't the Reich stuff just using a repeat that is a few milliseconds shorter than the original? I thought that's how he did the rain and come out pieces. I don't know how to accomplish this with an AE system (others probably could figure it out).

As for something like clapping music, you'd want something to trigger like after 32 "beats" (or pulses from an LFO). And you'd use that to start a phrase or restart a phrase. Wouldn't the beat divider work best? And if you want, you can even feed that through the slew if you want onset or offset.

Yeah, that's one reason I'm hoping for a trigger delay and a sample player with a loop function.

Also the phasing I'm thinking about is more like Piano Phase, Reed Phase and Violin Phase. He accomplished these by having two players play exactly the same line, then one player either play a touch faster, or adds or leaves out a notes to start the phasing.

In my latest album I tried using the step reset on the SEQ16 and TRIG164, but I never got any true phasing. It was more like beat shifting, and polyrhythms. I love the polyrythm effect especially when driving the resonance to get even more complex superimposed rhythms. That was cool, and like that, but I really want true phasing. It sound like it's possible. Time to get to patching!

I did it! It does work! I did it about the same, but used the low pass gate instead of a pure VCA. Works brilliantly! Gonna use this one as my submission to the community project.

tIB gets my vote.  Their solution uses one-half of one module and has both manual and CV control over the delay time.  Very elegant, very clever.  

Heck, you could use the second ENV to create a third signal from the second, if you wanted to layer those signal trains up.  Or, instead of chaining in series, both can be used in parallel (by duplicating the first implementation) to create two independently-controlled delayed trigger signals.  

I don't mean to derail the thread, but does ANYONE know where I can find BBD chips these days?  From my research, all production was finished by the 90's, and there is no elegant purely-analog solution to the problem of delaying an analog signal (outside of tape loops and the kludged-together capacitor-switch train that I scribbled out before I realized that BBD chips were the exact same thing but with 100x the capacitors).  Similarly, the only place I could find a PT2399 (my next best bet) in stock was Reverb, but again, not truly analog.  (Now that I think about it, it's likely that it's a digital chip gives the DELAY module its "lo-fi" character, as it is built around the PT2399.)

As funbun mentioned, the DELAY module has a lot of capability and is great to have freed up outside of the proposed patch solutions.  I especially love the meta sort-of parallel; we all have likely at least 2 envelope generators in 2ENV to use, but DELAY is almost always more sparse in our AEM racks, just like how BBD chips, the PT2399, and any "simple" audio delay solutions are hard to come by.