Jihel
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Post by Jihel on Sept 7, 2020 19:37:55 GMT
Is there an "elegant" solution to connect an old case to a new case without using the RackLink kit ?
Someone gave me an unused old case, but I ordered a new case (with upper and lower connectors)...
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Post by spacedog on Sept 7, 2020 20:17:56 GMT
Is there an "elegant" solution to connect an old case to a new case without using the RackLink kit ?
Someone gave me an unused old case, but I ordered a new case (with upper and lower connectors)...
I couldn't find a way of doing it - I have an "old" style two-row, connected to a "new" style one-row, using the RACKLINK. If there is a way to regain those two module spaces, I'm all ears.
One thing I did discover whilst fitting some new modules in the "new" style one is that the QUANTIZER, with its larger pot, doesn't fit in the third position from the left. The larger pot fouls on the small upright - I spent a long time trying to ease it past, but it wasn't going in. It was really close 1-2mm, so it may be a build-up of tolerances, or it may simply not fit there. I think a few of the newer modules are starting to put that pot in that position, so beware and don't foce it, just put it somewhere else.
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Post by moruial on Sept 8, 2020 6:34:45 GMT
I also have an old case aswell, yet I do not have a second case at the moment, but I'm also all ear if there is a way to connect them without the RACKLINK. Maybe by cutting a hole into the case and "extend" the ribbon cable and connect it to the other case? Alike the new cases maybe? But I have no idea how to do so.
But with the older cases, I guess the RACKLIN is the best option, or getting a new case, or a new POWER or MASTER module.
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Post by spacedog on Sept 8, 2020 9:49:31 GMT
I also have an old case aswell, yet I do not have a second case at the moment, but I'm also all ear if there is a way to connect them without the RACKLINK. Maybe by cutting a hole into the case and "extend" the ribbon cable and connect it to the other case? Alike the new cases maybe? But I have no idea how to do so.
But with the older cases, I guess the RACKLIN is the best option, or getting a new case, or a new POWER or MASTER module.
I find that there are a couple of advantages to my RACKLINK setup: - There are 8 bi-directional "free to use" connections that effectively allow short connections to/from the RACKLINK; and
- The RACKLINK cable itself allows for the systems to be placed a bit further apart, and not necessarily lined up.
I did think about setting up two separate systems and I will do this at some point and then I will use the "old" style two-row to set up something different (see below). My thinking was that I would still need a MASTER (the smaller POWER wasn't available) and I'd lose two slots anyway, so I might as well maintain connectivity and the slot loss would be the same The movement allowed by the RACKLINK cable enabled me to set up my new one-row angled, using foam blocks cut to angle it just right for me. My overall thinking being that I had always wanted my AE Modular to be an analogue (A) setup, so my system is primarily aiming at that. Of course, as more interesting and useful digital (D) modules have appeared it would be nice to incorporate them. My use here of A and D is mainly in the generation of the base waveforms, before subtractive processes or modulation (which themselves can be either A or D). The choice of POWER or MASTER comes down to MIDI connectivity over CV/Gate connectivity, or pure stand-alone, probably using the sequencer/trigger generator (for me, at least). My two main controllers are the KeyStep and the BeatStep Pro, which can both handle either, so there's no need for me to painic and make choices... just yet Apologies, that was a bit of a ramble, but my hope was that by exposing some of my underpinning thinking, it helps to show once again that we're really not boxed in by any of our decisions with AE Modular, which is something that I really enjoy. I'll make decisions whenever they're needed, but it's nice to have the option of leaving your options open, so to speak Sometimes It can be difficult to navigate through the different cases and connection options, but things are well-priced and ultimtely everything can be re-purposed. I will sound like a broken record, I know... the bottom line, I believe, is that you can over-think some of this and the prices are reasonable enough, and the setup is flexible enough, that some experimentation and just going with it can pay great dividends in terms of getting to the outcome of having fun and exploring the sounds.
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Post by Jihel on Sept 8, 2020 10:37:22 GMT
Thank you spacedog for your interesting comments. I want to avoid the Racklink system, so I have 2 options : - the "lazy option" : buying a Power module with a Power Splitter Cable, so I lost only 1U;
- the "technical option" suggested by moruial : drilling a hole on the back of the old case and linking the buss cables of the 2 cases with a short flat connection cable. I asked to a friend to explore this "technical option"...
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Post by moruial on Sept 8, 2020 11:02:45 GMT
If I remember correctly Robert said that one master/power module can give power to a fait amount of modules. That being said, you can alsao build a bigger case yourself with wood or metal or watever, and host all the modules in that built case. Juste have to be sure it doesn't exceed the size of the larger AE case to still be able to connect everything with patch wires.
That's the option I had in mide since a long time now and I think it still what i'll be doing. But for that, I need to get back to my workshop and it's pretty far away from where I live currently. Anyhow if I do such thing i'll be sure to keep you posted with how it went, in case somebody might be interested.
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Post by Jihel on Sept 8, 2020 11:26:20 GMT
Interessé par cette idée. I think a lot of people will be interested in this idea. Waiting now your posts
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 8, 2020 16:59:11 GMT
Thank you spacedog for your interesting comments. I want to avoid the Racklink system, so I have 2 options : - the "lazy option" : buying a Power module with a Power Splitter Cable, so I lost only 1U;
- the "technical option" suggested by moruial : drilling a hole on the back of the old case and linking the buss cables of the 2 cases with a short flat connection cable. I asked to a friend to explore this "technical option"...
don’t forget, the single unit POWER module has a switch to make one output Headphone compatible... which is a nice bonus if you don’t have the headphone amp unit.. you could just saw a neat narrow vertical slot in the case and slip the first bit of the ribbon cable in before replacing a module/blank.. it’s what i was originally planning with my old legacy 20 row case.. but now i figure i want it at a nearly vertical angle so will have to get a new case and hinge set.
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Post by moruial on Sept 8, 2020 20:02:24 GMT
I think a lot of people will be interested in this idea. Waiting now your posts That wont be anytime soon, but i'll keep the idea somewhere in my evil French mind
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