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Post by namke on Sept 6, 2020 10:05:02 GMT
Hi all, Well it finally happened — I have put together my first AEModular module for sale. Available in kit form or as pre-built, it’s a 3x3 matrix mixer with buffered outputs, usable with control or audio signals. The first run is only for 15 modules, but there will be another run if demand exists of course! More info is here wonkystuff.net/about_mm33Thanks for reading! john.. |
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Post by robertlanger on Sept 6, 2020 10:25:23 GMT
Exciting....! The first REAL third party AE module! I hope to see more coming!
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Post by admin on Sept 6, 2020 10:36:53 GMT
I already put my order in! Super excited to get my hands on this! I ordered the DIY version so I get a bit more exercise in soldering  |
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Post by 101 on Sept 6, 2020 11:33:49 GMT
Looks good. does it do panning?
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namke
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Post by namke on Sept 6, 2020 12:16:43 GMT
Looks good. does it do panning? Thank you You can definitely use it to move sounds around if it is patched in that way: For example you could feed an audio signal into input 1 then route outputs 'x' and 'y' to left and right audio, then by simultaneously turning the X level down and the Y level up, the signal would pan across left/right. … but not a 'conventional' pan with a L/R control I used it in my track from last week to move sounds (subtly) between left and right — namcom.bandcamp.com/track/mm33-3 |
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Post by MikMo on Sept 6, 2020 12:18:00 GMT
Nice!
Does the kit involve SMD soldering or is it all TH ?
Mikael
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Post by namke on Sept 6, 2020 12:24:30 GMT
Nice! Does the kit involve SMD soldering or is it all TH ? Mikael It is all through hole. I will probably have to move to SMD later, but I'm putting it off as long as I can!! |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 6, 2020 14:58:17 GMT
Looks good. does it do panning? well you can ‘sort of’ use it for panning, though that’s not really it’s purpose in terms of ‘mixing’ but if you use say X output as left and Y output as right you can dial in how much of the A,B or C signals go to L/R .. but you would have to sweep two knobs at the same time in opposite directions to do a left to right sweep in real time.. it’s more about signals interfering with each other creatively and feeding back on each other with added colouration.. Namke/wonkystuff mentions David Tudor , his Neural Synthesis stuff is a prime example of this principle ( but infinitely more complex ) and another good example is David Myers/Arcane Device from way back.. ah! too late Namke types quicker! |
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Post by MikMo on Sept 6, 2020 15:21:56 GMT
One more question, are the inputs protected, so you could connect external sources to them ?
Mikael
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Post by namke on Sept 6, 2020 17:11:39 GMT
One more question, are the inputs protected, so you could connect external sources to them ? Mikael Hmm, interesting question! Well they're not explicitly protected, however I would think that in the general case you'd be safe. I would also expect that if you were bringing signals in from 'outside' they would either go through the MASTER or the 4I/O modules for example, and those modules would be protected. |
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Post by namke on Sept 6, 2020 17:13:01 GMT
Looks good. does it do panning? well you can ‘sort of’ use it for panning, though that’s not really it’s purpose in terms of ‘mixing’ but if you use say X output as left and Y output as right you can dial in how much of the A,B or C signals go to L/R .. but you would have to sweep two knobs at the same time in opposite directions to do a left to right sweep in real time.. it’s more about signals interfering with each other creatively and feeding back on each other with added colouration.. Namke/wonkystuff mentions David Tudor , his Neural Synthesis stuff is a prime example of this principle ( but infinitely more complex ) and another good example is David Myers/Arcane Device from way back.. ah! too late Namke types quicker! Sorry! I'm going to have to look up some of those references though — most of it I've only read about! |
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Post by MikMo on Sept 6, 2020 17:34:09 GMT
Oh yes of course, just toss external signals through the 4I/O
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Post by martynaudio on Sept 7, 2020 7:39:02 GMT
Looks great! Having a nosey on your site now too!
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Post by MikMo on Sept 7, 2020 11:23:04 GMT
Resistance is futile (especially when it is organized in a 3x3 matrix). I ordered the kit :-)
Mikael
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Post by namke on Sept 7, 2020 18:54:52 GMT
Thanks very much to all the people who have ordered — I have some busy time building ahead. I hope to get most of the orders out by the end of the week…
I’ve just re-implemented the web shop, so I hope it still works! PayPal can now be avoided if you’d rather not use it 🙂
Please let me know if there are any problems!!
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Post by slowscape on Sept 7, 2020 20:25:07 GMT
Yep! rockysmalls the creative interaction of sounds is something I'm really excited to explore with this new module |
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Post by funbun on Sept 7, 2020 21:36:46 GMT
SWEET!
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Post by Lugia on Sept 9, 2020 3:39:38 GMT
Like it...I like the look, also. It's an excellent addition to the module lineup!
BTW, the David Tudor feedback techniques probably find their best expression in his "Rainforest" series, which use feedback-based electroacoustic devices to emulate...well, a rainforest. Pretty uncanny, too; I have the Edition Block vinyl of "Rainforest IV" and it's SO convincing that I've used it in mixes and people were convinced that it was real nature sounds. Have a poke around davidtudor.org/Works/rainforest.html where you'll also find a link to....oooooOOOOOOOOOooooo DIAGRAMS! |
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Post by rodney on Sept 10, 2020 11:37:28 GMT
Panning would be easy if you have some slip-on larger knobs. You just put a thick rubber band around two knobs in a figure 8 configuration. |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 10, 2020 12:35:39 GMT
Like it...I like the look, also. It's an excellent addition to the module lineup!
BTW, the David Tudor feedback techniques probably find their best expression in his "Rainforest" series, which use feedback-based electroacoustic devices to emulate...well, a rainforest. Pretty uncanny, too; I have the Edition Block vinyl of "Rainforest IV" and it's SO convincing that I've used it in mixes and people were convinced that it was real nature sounds. Have a poke around davidtudor.org/Works/rainforest.html where you'll also find a link to....oooooOOOOOOOOOooooo DIAGRAMS! i had the honour of looking after Mr Tudor for 2 days back in the 90’s , in Amsterdam whilst he was waiting for his assistant to arrive from the US to work on a Merce Cunningham show.. it was post heart attack and he was a bit fragile but a really lovely guy. We went shopping for rubber stamps at The Stempel Temple ... and, of course, guitar fx pedals at Dirk Witte.. to be taken apart and wired into his neural synthesis boxes.. |
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Post by rodney on Sept 12, 2020 1:01:14 GMT
i had the honour of looking after Mr Tudor for 2 days back in the 90’s , in Amsterdam whilst he was waiting for his assistant to arrive from the US to work on a Merce Cunningham show.. it was post heart attack and he was a bit fragile but a really lovely guy. We went shopping for rubber stamps at The Stempel Temple ... and, of course, guitar fx pedals at Dirk Witte.. to be taken apart and wired into his neural synthesis boxes.. It's easy to forget that our heroes are often just ordinary people who are happy to meet you for a tea and chat. Ok, some are jerks, but just find other heroes in that case. |
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Post by Lugia on Sept 12, 2020 3:49:35 GMT
i had the honour of looking after Mr Tudor for 2 days back in the 90’s , in Amsterdam whilst he was waiting for his assistant to arrive from the US to work on a Merce Cunningham show.. it was post heart attack and he was a bit fragile but a really lovely guy. We went shopping for rubber stamps at The Stempel Temple ... and, of course, guitar fx pedals at Dirk Witte.. to be taken apart and wired into his neural synthesis boxes.. It's easy to forget that our heroes are often just ordinary people who are happy to meet you for a tea and chat. Ok, some are jerks, but just find other heroes in that case. One of my last "mentors" was Holger Czukay. We'd chat at length online on his czukay.de site's chatboard back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, and it was there that Holger said that I needed to get over there and study with Cholly...because, like Holger said, "none of us are getting any younger, you know". Changed my life, and I still feel very indebted to him; there's times I'd really like to run what I'm doing past him for his critical senses to seize on bits I might be missing. Rest In Peace, you noisy, crazy mo'fo...we miss ya! |
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Post by morgs on Sept 12, 2020 12:49:49 GMT
Like it...I like the look, also. It's an excellent addition to the module lineup!
BTW, the David Tudor feedback techniques probably find their best expression in his "Rainforest" series, which use feedback-based electroacoustic devices to emulate...well, a rainforest. Pretty uncanny, too; I have the Edition Block vinyl of "Rainforest IV" and it's SO convincing that I've used it in mixes and people were convinced that it was real nature sounds. Have a poke around davidtudor.org/Works/rainforest.html where you'll also find a link to....oooooOOOOOOOOOooooo DIAGRAMS! i had the honour of looking after Mr Tudor for 2 days back in the 90’s , in Amsterdam whilst he was waiting for his assistant to arrive from the US to work on a Merce Cunningham show.. it was post heart attack and he was a bit fragile but a really lovely guy. We went shopping for rubber stamps at The Stempel Temple ... and, of course, guitar fx pedals at Dirk Witte.. to be taken apart and wired into his neural synthesis boxes.. MoMA had a small but beautiful exhibition of his Rainforest Variation. Was fortunate enough to be in town and make it on the last day. Was so nice to see how many people of all ages engaging with the sounds and shapes! www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5077Attachments:
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Post by morgs on Sept 12, 2020 12:53:05 GMT
Thanks very much to all the people who have ordered — I have some busy time building ahead. I hope to get most of the orders out by the end of the week… I’ve just re-implemented the web shop, so I hope it still works! PayPal can now be avoided if you’d rather not use it 🙂 Please let me know if there are any problems!! This is super exciting news! I'd love to order a kit quick question about difficulty. For context, I've successfully soldered several entry DIY kits at this point (e.g. Bastle Kastle/Tea-Kick, MTM mikrophonie) but royally screwed up a Dreadbox Antiphon which has made me allergic to DIY for a while now. Do you think this kit is safe treading?! |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 12, 2020 13:17:54 GMT
Thanks very much to all the people who have ordered — I have some busy time building ahead. I hope to get most of the orders out by the end of the week… I’ve just re-implemented the web shop, so I hope it still works! PayPal can now be avoided if you’d rather not use it 🙂 Please let me know if there are any problems!! This is super exciting news! I'd love to order a kit quick question about difficulty. For context, I've successfully soldered several entry DIY kits at this point (e.g. Bastle Kastle/Tea-Kick, MTM mikrophonie) but royally screwed up a Dreadbox Antiphon which has made me allergic to DIY for a while now. Do you think this kit is safe treading?! can probably chime in... but i would say it comes under the ‘fairly easy’ category, 9 potentiometers, a good number of resistors ( all the same so no way to mix them up, two 8 pin headers and one IC. if you’ve done a Kastle then yr ok, this is nowhere near as small or cramped as that tiny board. that saying, mr Wonkystuffs prebuilds are solid.. so absolutely worth the extra £15... which is what i went for in the end. |
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