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Post by MaxRichardson97 on Aug 13, 2020 22:36:34 GMT
Hey all! Hope you're all doing well. So, I thought it was time for yet another forum post about upgrades to the starter rack - and hoped some of you might be able to check my system over! This is my current setup, with a few modules I purchased when I got the starter rack:  And this is the setup I'm looking to turn it into:  Essentially, I'm trying to cram as much sound into my system as possible for now, without compromising on usability. I've opted against more VCAs/ENVs as the LOPAG acts essentially as a VCA, and is a little more exciting when I'm low on space! I'm definitely going to look at a second case down the line, and will add SEQ tools alongside ENVs, VCAs and a mixer then. While I've only got the one mixer, my thoughts are that I'll never use that much sound at once anyway, it'd be way too overwhelming all at once. I'm thinking of using the mixer B channels to feed audio together, then feed that back into one of the channels. I've also loved the multiple inputs on the delay, they've worked well in my experiments! Just checking that this looks acceptable to everyone else really? I think that after some thought, this might be the best fit for me - but will look at swapping things out if people really think it just won't work. Cheers! |
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Post by lukylutte on Aug 14, 2020 4:45:49 GMT
You have all those voices but only the 2lfo and noise/S&H which could control their pitch? It's really depends on what you want to do; it's fine for drone or atonal music but forget about melodies.
I'd switch some voices to add a mixer for cv mixing and a seq8. Has you told you're not going to use all those voices at once so you could wait for the extension box to add...
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Post by MaxRichardson97 on Aug 14, 2020 6:34:31 GMT
You have all those voices but only the 2lfo and noise/S&H which could control their pitch? It's really depends on what you want to do; it's fine for drone or atonal music but forget about melodies. I'd switch some voices to add a mixer for cv mixing and a seq8. Has you told you're not going to use all those voices at once so you could wait for the extension box to add... Cheers! I'd thought that a bit myself, I mainly SEQ from external devices but it would definitely be good to get some more patterns on the go, will have a think. I've found that with a drone (no pitch change), and some FM patches it might be doable, but will see if I can swap something out. A seq16 is definitely next on the list! |
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Post by audiojack on Aug 14, 2020 8:58:37 GMT
It's very hard to advise against a module, I want you to buy them all! but with your limited space, I would swap the Algodrone for a Grains if you're not averse to flashing a MCU. You can get similar sounds from the Grains to the Aglodrone at the cost of modulation and variation, but you gain 1U and you can reflash grains into something else.
Do you use midi? How often do you use logic or the analgue delay?
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Post by MaxRichardson97 on Aug 14, 2020 9:59:36 GMT
It's very hard to advise against a module, I want you to buy them all! but with your limited space, I would swap the Algodrone for a Grains if you're not averse to flashing a MCU. You can get similar sounds from the Grains to the Aglodrone at the cost of modulation and variation, but you gain 1U and you can reflash grains into something else.
Do you use midi? How often do you use logic or the analgue delay?
Cheers! Of course, so many modules and so little space haha. I'd considered Grains, love the look of it. Is flashing it fairly safe? I've flashed RaspberryPi before, but something so small scares me a little, would be afraid to damage it. I use midi pretty often, love the Novation Circuit as a sequencer. I don't use logic too much but it's because I've not particularly explored it, I think with more modules it'd come into its own a bit more! The delay I use loads actually - one of my favourite things in the system is to use it as a sound source by turning feedback up to about 2/3 o'clock! |
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Post by MikMo on Aug 14, 2020 10:14:43 GMT
Flashing Grains is unproblematic.
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Post by spacedog on Aug 14, 2020 14:42:06 GMT
If you want to control or modulate the pitch CV on the oscillators without having to re-tune each time you change something, you may want to consider the 4BUFFER. If you also want to iron out tuning issues from external CV sources (e.g a sequencer) then the QUANTIZER could be useful.
Mine are arriving soon, at which point I can confirm if they solve the tuning problems that I get with large (enough) voltage drops. This is especially true if you use the SEQ16 and then try any pitch modulation.
On a more general note...
Your decision is driven by what problems you want to solve and/or what you want to achieve (e.g. drone music, melodic music, multi-tasking, etc.). Those answers will help, although you might just want to be an explorer, which is equally valid, in which case, buy more modules than you can accomodate and swap them in and out. It's so quick, you can even build for a task, if you want. Then you can buy some more racks and build some that do one job, for example.
We're fortunate that the modules don't become costly mistakes, and any that get put to one side could well make a reappearance later.
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Post by funbun on Aug 14, 2020 15:47:44 GMT
Time to buy an extra case!
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Post by MaxRichardson97 on Aug 14, 2020 21:10:43 GMT
If you want to control or modulate the pitch CV on the oscillators without having to re-tune each time you change something, you may want to consider the 4BUFFER. If you also want to iron out tuning issues from external CV sources (e.g a sequencer) then the QUANTIZER could be useful. Mine are arriving soon, at which point I can confirm if they solve the tuning problems that I get with large (enough) voltage drops. This is especially true if you use the SEQ16 and then try any pitch modulation. On a more general note... Your decision is driven by what problems you want to solve and/or what you want to achieve (e.g. drone music, melodic music, multi-tasking, etc.). Those answers will help, although you might just want to be an explorer, which is equally valid, in which case, buy more modules than you can accomodate and swap them in and out. It's so quick, you can even build for a task, if you want. Then you can buy some more racks and build some that do one job, for example. We're fortunate that the modules don't become costly mistakes, and any that get put to one side could well make a reappearance later. You're absolutely right, it's lucky that modules aren't as big of a commitment in AE as Eurorack - I'm indecisive enough as it is! I'm definitely thinking SEQ16 and Quantizer in another case at some point, alongside some CV stuff. I think I'm into a little bit of everything really, I just love making different sounds, almost using the system as a bit of a groovebox. As @ funbun says, a second case definitely seems inevitable for me at this point! |
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