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Post by whiteturbo on Jul 19, 2020 12:46:24 GMT
Hi, only had my rack 2 for a few days, I got the Topograph and Kick drum and Drumkit module at the same time, So am only starting to explore its possibilities. So just how good is the FX module? would it be better to buy an external FX unit like the Big Sky or one of the Eventide units. I really want the AE FX module to be good because i like the idea of it all being integrated but most of all i like the cost, BUT i don't want to settle for second best. There is no way I can try before i decide so i thought i could reach out to you guys to maybe find an opinion from those that actually know what they are doing. I have already ordered the Solena from Robert so FX is next in line, and i don't want to make a mistake. P.S. I'm into techno so FX is a very important component to me.  |
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Post by admin on Jul 19, 2020 12:53:40 GMT
Hi, first, check out the wiki page for the MultiFX which links to NightMachines great demo video: wiki.aemodular.com/pmwiki.php/AeManual/MULTIFXSecondly, I have a Zoom MS-70CDR multi effects guitar pedal which I often use for other small synths, but for my AE Modular I use the MultiFX exclusively in my videos. The deepspace reverb is really good, but it might not reach the same quality as an H9 or BigSky, but these are almost 10x more expensive, so really not a fair comparison! |
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Post by spacedog on Jul 19, 2020 21:36:48 GMT
As admin says, go and check out the demo of the module. That will give you an indication of what the module can do. Admittedly, it doesn't give you a comparison between what you'll hear from the module and what you'll hear from high-end pedals.
Bluntly, if you're looking for a Strymon-sounding reverb, there aren't really any shortcuts to spending a lot more money than you will spend on the MULTIFX. If, as you say, "...FX is a very important component to me...", then you're going to want the flexibility and quality that comes from paying for Strymon or Eventide and you're going to be building a pedal farm, or some set of boxes/units. Or, you'll be investing in quality VST effects.
A Strymon will cost you just over four times what you'll pay for a MULTIFX, unless you track down a good or used deal. So there must be something going on inside that pedal.
So, what's going on inside the MULTIFX...? It's based on the SPIN FV-1 so you can read all about what's in there. Then a good read is this Reverb article that discusses some of the well known pedals that use the SPIN FV-1. It's got a good pedigree and does a great job. That all starts to put the MULTIFX in context.
I'll declare my use of external pedals. I like the flexibility as I like to connect them up in varying ways and with odd routings, and I like to play the pedals in real time. I enjoy the huge movement that I can achieve that way. I have many reverb pedals (including high end) and I have way too many delay pedals (again, with some pretty expensive models in there). I started that way and didn't buy the MULTIFX for that reason. I use what I need to create the sound that I have in my head, so getting to know what you do buy is essential.
Having said that, if I had space (which I don't), I would still consider a MULTIFX a useul addition to my modular. I might not use it all of the time, or on every output - but it's a dead handy, and quick, effects processor, and it's integrated into the modular - as you said as well.
So, I'm saying that if effects are imprtant to your sound, pick ones that help to define that sound - these are likely to be a set of individual pedals, and it may take some trial and error to get there. Also, consider the value-for-money MULTIFX both to get you started and also to be there always as yet another effects processor. They're like VCAs, you can *never* have enough.
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Post by slowscape on Jul 19, 2020 22:46:48 GMT
The best thing to do is listen and decide My latest youtube video relies heavily on MULTIFX if you want some more examples of it. I believe I was set to deep space on this one. |
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Post by tIB on Jul 20, 2020 5:03:05 GMT
I picked one up recently and quite like it - it's nice having FX in the rack and even nicer to able to feed those CV, which is why you might go for one of these over the external devices mentioned. I'm probably more in love with my spring reverb and delay, though in combination I'm getting some nice sounding stuff.
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Post by sycophante on Jul 20, 2020 10:22:51 GMT
Hi, only had my rack 2 for a few days, I got the Topograph and Kick drum and Drumkit module at the same time, So am only starting to explore its possibilities. So just how good is the FX module? would it be better to buy an external FX unit like the Big Sky or one of the Eventide units. I really want the AE FX module to be good because i like the idea of it all being integrated but most of all i like the cost, BUT i don't want to settle for second best. There is no way I can try before i decide so i thought i could reach out to you guys to maybe find an opinion from those that actually know what they are doing. I have already ordered the Solena from Robert so FX is next in line, and i don't want to make a mistake. P.S. I'm into techno so FX is a very important component to me. It all depends on how you use effects IMO (not counting filters when I say this), FXs might be your main tweaked stuff and main way of expressing yourself. You could like to use a big fx rack with a lot of parameters you could change. I am not sure AEM provide this in an accessible way : I have used a pedalboard with my rack 2 wich made cool drones, and thought to use ORAC as chain of effects or buy myself THYME from bastl wich looks like a beautiful performance effect. So I see perfectly motivations for having external stuff as end of chain. This being said, the delay and reverb are great, plus the multi-FX offers ten nice effects, quite tweakable, and CVable, and don't forget that feedback knob wich can give really nice results ^^ All the FXs sounds beautiful to me and could take some time to learn and master, if you don't one super versatile effect, or a lots different FX at the same time, Multi-FX is great! EDIT : I also think it is likely I will add one or two multi-FX more to my rack in the future, as the FX are various enough to be chained together (like flanger -> delay -> reverb). |
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Post by Lugia on Jul 20, 2020 21:25:13 GMT
For the complicated stuff, definitely outboard. But for the basic FV-1 processes, and especially the spring reverb, I use the inboard modules. Robert did a great job with these...plus, you can swap in different reverb tanks; I use two different tanks with the REVERB modules I have, one being a smoother 3-spring short tank, and the other being a dual-spring longer (and MUCH "splattier") one. But if you're trying for those "Thursday Afternoon" 70-second reverb fields...nope, you're going to have to go external.
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