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Post by itsvulc on Jun 9, 2020 9:59:34 GMT
Greetings all from New Zealand, first post here I am finalising my order before assembly and have been offered an interesting consideration with the awesome new modules (nice work on all the new stuff Robert) I have the option of either the SEQ8 or the TRIQ164 as the sequencer module, and am wondering what people's choice of these 2 sequencers would be? (within the context of the other modules in the system) For context I have attached photos of the planned system, each with 1 of the 2 possible options: TRIQ164 option: SEQ8 option: Any response / input would be appreciated. Cheers, Vulc!
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Post by admin on Jun 9, 2020 10:09:09 GMT
If you already have a sequencer, eg. SQ-1 or Keystep, then you wouldn’t necessarily need the seq8. But if you don’t, then it’s a great way to get a melody going while you explore the filters and modulation options.
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Post by itsvulc on Jun 9, 2020 10:16:42 GMT
I have 2 x Deluge's for sequencing purposes (more than sufficient I think haha) so maybe the TRIQ164 would be a more fun and experimental option to have on board and the more musical stuff can be left to the Deluges to sequence?
cheers for your quick reply - and awesome videos on YouTube btw!
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Post by admin on Jun 9, 2020 10:40:11 GMT
Wow, Double Deluge! Tough choice then. I must say that I don’t use the Triq164 much now that I also have the Topograf and MM-Divider. However I still use the the Seq16 a lot, also for non-musical stuff, eg. Modulating filter cut-off, etc. it’s very versatile. I would go with the Seq8 and try to add the MM-Divider later for rhythmic stuff.
But please be aware, that’s only my opinion! There’s really no right or wrong answer here!
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Post by Gaëtan on Jun 9, 2020 11:52:35 GMT
I don't know the Deluge much, but it seems that its interface is pretty nice for sending triggers, especially with 4 gate outs. Moreover, you don't have that much that can be triggered, nor that can process gate/trig signals.
I think you will probably have more fun with the SEQ8, it is very versatile. If you want to play with triggers, you can do some fun stuff with all these envelopes and LFOs.
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Post by funbun on Jun 9, 2020 12:12:27 GMT
Yeah, I don't like the TRIQ164 at all. For my work the SEQ8 is far better. I have two SEQ16 on the way and will probably add one more eventually.
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Post by audiojack on Jun 9, 2020 14:07:49 GMT
Other than that I would replace one of your 2ENV with an ADSR
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Post by NightMachines on Jun 9, 2020 15:42:50 GMT
I’d also choose the SEQ8, but also a MM-DIV. Maybe even more importantly a MM-DIV if your Deluges can easily sequence MIDI or CV.
I feel that the TRIG164 is more suitable for a larger system with a focus on percussion and rhythm generation, but with your four envelopes, S&H and logic a MM-DIV would still be very useful.
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Post by itsvulc on Jun 9, 2020 19:36:05 GMT
Other than that I would replace one of your 2ENV with an ADSR Good suggestion, I had made this grid before the new modules were added and now that you mention it ADSR is one of my used sound design utilities (I'm sure this is also the case for many others) so I should probably add that to the system too Cheers
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Post by itsvulc on Jun 9, 2020 20:08:21 GMT
Thanks heaps for the useful replies everyone, I've taken everyones feedback in to consideration and have settled on this selection/arrangement of modules (the layout might seem a bit funky but I can always move the modules later ) Now just hoping I can contact Robert before my SR2 order is assembled to add all the new goodness to it
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Post by Daniel Linger on Jun 28, 2020 13:21:55 GMT
Sorry for the lateness of response here (and I see your questions have been answered anyway). I just wanted to say what an excellent choice of start modules. For a first modular system, that's a very good selection! I think I can see the sort of thing you want to do with it, as it's probably pretty close to what I do.
As always, there is NO wrong answer here!
I wanted to add a small point about the TRIQ164 module. I can perfectly understand why most people get more use and versatility out of the SEQ8 module, as that offers both triggers and note sequencing. It's probably the best bang for buck.
However, that does not mean the TRIQ is totally useless. One thing it does do REALLY well is triggering things like drum machines/samples, and so on.
But I hear you cry "the SEQ8 module does that", and indeed it does - for one channel afaik.
With The TRIQ164, you have 4 channels of patterns where you can not only use each channel individually to trigger stuff in a given pattern, but use the individual outputs ONLY on certain notes.
I've used it to trigger an Elektron Model:Samples according to a pattern, then send another channel/pattern to another drum machine, but before sending the signal out, have the CV manipulated by logic so that it changes the pattern slightly each time - great for using on snares with the first channel just triggering the bass drums sound.
So yeah, it's not entirely useless, but I admit this is most likely a bit niche. I personally love messing around connecting the AE modular with my other synths - mostly the aforementioned Model:Samples (which I absolutely love using as my main drum machine), cross patching with a Minibrute 2S, and blending with a Microfreak.
These are probably my "go to" devices. Hope this helps.
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Post by slowscape on Jun 30, 2020 18:56:53 GMT
My only suggestion: With 4 total ENV's you'll probably want at least 4 total VCA's
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