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Post by audiojack on Apr 26, 2020 9:52:52 GMT
This is my most anticipated module, and as such, I'm craving for news about it's features.
"Performance stereo mixer with 4 channels, FX send with stereo return, channel pan, CV control for channel volume and master volume." Quite a lot here.
I think the most important feature for me would be the ability to chain two or three of these bad boys together without having to patch them (perhaps link cables at the back of the module?) to make a 8 or 12 channel mixer. I do hope that will be possible. |
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Post by Gaëtan on Apr 26, 2020 11:12:46 GMT
CV over panning !
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Post by robertlanger on Apr 26, 2020 16:32:45 GMT
I think the most important feature for me would be the ability to chain two or three of these bad boys together without having to patch them (perhaps link cables at the back of the module?) to make a 8 or 12 channel mixer. I do hope that will be possible. Yes, this is exactly planned like this! There will be a 2U channel extender module with 3 additional channels with same features and you can add as much as you like then :-) |
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Post by robertlanger on Apr 26, 2020 16:36:58 GMT
This would require a lot of additional internal VCAs, so it's not my plan to integrate this feature. But I think about a separate CV Panner/Xfade module that can be used here if necessary but also for other purposes. |
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Post by Lugia on Apr 27, 2020 0:17:42 GMT
Here's a nifty idea: Baxandall EQ circuit on the mixbus. Very useful for tweaking the final tone color of the mix, plus it's relatively simple to implement: just pick a pair of fixed corner frequencies (my vote goes for 80 Hz and 3 kHz) and then a knob for each's boost/cut. Also, given that this would be a logical output point, how about adding some balancing/isolation transformers and a TRS connector for each channel? I think I mentioned an idea before for a balanced output module of that sort, perhaps even mounting the transformer cans _above_ the panel, not behind...especially if there's something like an option for Cinemags, etc that might be cool to show off.
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Post by Gaëtan on Apr 27, 2020 3:56:39 GMT
This would require a lot of additional internal VCAs, so it's not my plan to integrate this feature. But I think about a separate CV Panner/Xfade module that can be used here if necessary but also for other purposes. I would argue that the VCAs would be better used for panning instead of CV control of volume. Indeed every sound is likely to have its own VCA already. I understand that the circuitry might be more complicated for panning.
However I would gladly welcome a crossfade module ! Those are criminally underrated in modular, I particularly like the one that is built into the Moog Mother32. As long as we can do panning easily.
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Post by Lugia on Apr 27, 2020 5:51:16 GMT
+1 for the crossfade/panning idea! Something of a bidirectional sort of thing...capable of either two inputs down to one, or vice-versa if that's doable. Maybe some sort of switch arrangement could make that work...?
But yeah, as a separate module, it makes loads of sense. I can see a number of applications for this, particularly if the VCA(s) is DC-coupled to allow manipulation of CV/mod signals. Then if you NEED CV panning, you can drop that onto two mixer inputs panned hard left and right.
But being able to crossfade/sum-at-center your modulation signals...now THAT could get crazy real quick!
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Post by robertlanger on Apr 27, 2020 9:49:45 GMT
Here's a nifty idea: Baxandall EQ circuit on the mixbus. Very useful for tweaking the final tone color of the mix, plus it's relatively simple to implement: just pick a pair of fixed corner frequencies (my vote goes for 80 Hz and 3 kHz) and then a knob for each's boost/cut. Also, given that this would be a logical output point, how about adding some balancing/isolation transformers and a TRS connector for each channel? I think I mentioned an idea before for a balanced output module of that sort, perhaps even mounting the transformer cans _above_ the panel, not behind...especially if there's something like an option for Cinemags, etc that might be cool to show off. This might be realized by an "extended output" for the mixer; IMO, for most user a relatively simple and not too expensive mixer would be fine, but of course we could make an addon module with Baxandall EQ, balanced output for the more pro oriented users. I really love this discussions and inspirations :-) |
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Post by lukylutte on Apr 27, 2020 10:52:41 GMT
The modular mixconsole would be perfect! More channel, EQ, Pan/Vca maybe compressor or whatever else you could think of!
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Post by Lugia on Apr 27, 2020 19:59:12 GMT
Here's a nifty idea: Baxandall EQ circuit on the mixbus. Very useful for tweaking the final tone color of the mix, plus it's relatively simple to implement: just pick a pair of fixed corner frequencies (my vote goes for 80 Hz and 3 kHz) and then a knob for each's boost/cut. Also, given that this would be a logical output point, how about adding some balancing/isolation transformers and a TRS connector for each channel? I think I mentioned an idea before for a balanced output module of that sort, perhaps even mounting the transformer cans _above_ the panel, not behind...especially if there's something like an option for Cinemags, etc that might be cool to show off. This might be realized by an "extended output" for the mixer; IMO, for most user a relatively simple and not too expensive mixer would be fine, but of course we could make an addon module with Baxandall EQ, balanced output for the more pro oriented users. Actually, yeah...that would make a tad more sense. Balanced outputs are getting bigger in the Eurorack scene, because people are figuring out that they DO help with controlling noise issues, breaking ground loops, etc. But a balanced stereo output + Baxandall? Woooo! Talk about a definitive, killer output module! From what I know, there'd be nothing like it in Eurorack at all. |
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Post by timb0bsteve on Apr 29, 2020 20:31:22 GMT
Any chance to include more than one AUX Snd/Rtn? I prefer to have my delay and reverb on separate send channels :-P
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Post by robertlanger on Aug 17, 2020 7:01:45 GMT
Any chance to include more than one AUX Snd/Rtn? I prefer to have my delay and reverb on separate send channels :-P The thing will have TWO aux send/returns! |
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Post by Jihel on Aug 17, 2020 7:56:53 GMT
"IMO, for most user a relatively simple and not too expensive mixer would be fine"
And in a compact format : simple, compact, inexpensive.
Additional (inexpensive) modules for specific functions may be considered.
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Post by blackhairrolledindriedblood on Aug 17, 2020 16:34:25 GMT
A separate rack for live mix and performance with expandable modules, paired with a capacitive touch controller. Oh my days, I'd be in heaven!
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Post by Lugia on Aug 17, 2020 18:16:14 GMT
Any chance to include more than one AUX Snd/Rtn? I prefer to have my delay and reverb on separate send channels :-P The thing will have TWO aux send/returns! AAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! I approve bigly!
Additional 20 x 1 cab purchase looks VERY likely now, once this puppy's ready to go!
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Post by thundersound on Aug 28, 2020 20:50:12 GMT
Any chance to include more than one AUX Snd/Rtn? I prefer to have my delay and reverb on separate send channels :-P The thing will have TWO aux send/returns! I love it already, that would be a great thing .. |
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Post by solipsistnation on Oct 19, 2020 16:33:04 GMT
This is my number one wishlist module right now. 8)
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Post by MikMo on Oct 19, 2020 17:51:41 GMT
Nice to see Robert showing a prototype the other day.
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Post by martynaudio on Oct 20, 2020 10:03:01 GMT
agreed! definitely excited about grabbing one (or two!) of these when they're ready!
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