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Post by admin on Feb 19, 2020 21:21:28 GMT
This is a short article about three women who are probably the most influential pioneers of electronic music: Laurie Spiegel, Pauline Oliveros and Eliane Radigue. synthandsoftware.com/2020/02/pioneers-of-electronic-music-laurie-spiegel-pauline-oliveros-and-eliane-radigue/Interesting that they each chose one synth that they then spent years to master and make it the core of their artistic output. It's really not about how many synths or modules you have ... it's what you do with it. Another concept that comes up again in this article is "Deep Listening" and that was touched on in my interview with Ezra Buchla last year, where he also mentioned Pauline Oliveros and Eline Radigue as his influences. I'm really trying ... but how do you find the time nowadays? Anyway, I'm really inspired by these women ... especially in a seemingly male oriented genre. If you know of any others ... please mention them below and let's celebrate the women in electronic music!
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Post by persy on Feb 19, 2020 21:50:36 GMT
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Post by admin on Feb 19, 2020 21:56:30 GMT
This is a fantastic find. Thanks, persy! BTW you can embed YouTube videos directly in forum posts by just pasting the URL into to the text:
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Post by Lugia on Feb 19, 2020 22:37:24 GMT
There's plenty of women in electronic music. In fact, one pioneer that I would've expected there was Wendy Carlos...not only a woman, but a trans woman, ergo a pioneer in more ways than just music. Wendy's collaboration with Bob Moog was what took the Moog synth from being just an academic tool to a highly desired musical instrument, leading to things such as CV latching, ergonomics that favored musicians over lab techs, initial stabs at polyphony, and the like...besides popularizing the instrument with "Switched-on Bach". Sure, she was "Walter" back then, but she'd identified as female around that general time.
Other women: Daphne Oram, another BBC Radiophonic Workshop pioneer who experimented with optical synthesis via film soundtrack techniques. Suzanne Ciani, another pioneering synthesist who developed the use of electronics (and her custom Buchla) to create "sound logos". There's Ruth Anderson, not only a significant electronic and traditional media composer but a plunderphonics pioneer as well. Bebe Barron, along with her husband Louis, gave us the first electronic music soundtrack with their work for "Forbidden Planet". Ruth White, who'd built her own studio in the mid-1960s after studies with George Antheil. And back to the present, there's Ramona Xavier, better known as Macintosh Plus (among other aliases) where she helped codify the sound of vaporwave.
Lots of 'em...more besides these, too...
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Post by arti on Feb 19, 2020 23:14:23 GMT
Women are pioneers still - they make groundbreaking electronic music of today. My favourite modern electronic explorers are Holly Herndon, Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith, We Will Fail (Aleksandra Grunholz)
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Post by admin on Feb 20, 2020 0:13:19 GMT
Here is Caterina Barbieri
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Post by persy on Feb 20, 2020 0:36:05 GMT
i think this thread was originally supposed to be about early electronic music pioneers. but, yes, of course women are embedded in modern musical forward thinking.
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Post by slowscape on Feb 20, 2020 16:47:48 GMT
Here is Caterina Barbieri SO inspiring.
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Post by Lugia on Feb 20, 2020 22:52:04 GMT
Duh...forgot someone: the first star performer of electronic music...Clara Rockmore! Here she is in a late clip, kickin' the crap out of what you thought the theremin could do:
Rockmore was a big deal on the concert circuit as far back as the 1930s and she's still considered the first virtuoso electronic musician that could hold her own on the theremin against the standards set by classical acoustic instrument performers.
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Post by sycophante on Feb 21, 2020 11:29:06 GMT
This is a short article about three women who are probably the most influential pioneers of electronic music: Laurie Spiegel, Pauline Oliveros and Eliane Radigue. synthandsoftware.com/2020/02/pioneers-of-electronic-music-laurie-spiegel-pauline-oliveros-and-eliane-radigue/Interesting that they each chose one synth that they then spent years to master and make it the core of their artistic output. It's really not about how many synths or modules you have ... it's what you do with it. Another concept that comes up again in this article is "Deep Listening" and that was touched on in my interview with Ezra Buchla last year, where he also mentioned Pauline Oliveros and Eline Radigue as his influences. I'm really trying ... but how do you find the time nowadays? Anyway, I'm really inspired by these women ... especially in a seemingly male oriented genre. If you know of any others ... please mention them below and let's celebrate the women in electronic music! Deep Listening is so important for me : listening to some deep listening music, I really got to listen to the environment sound for their aesthetic qualities.
And Eliane Radigue is surely one of my main motivations to buy an AEM anyway!
It is true that women are really important in electronic music, couldn't tell if they do add a touch to the genre or if at some point we felt obligated to recognize them considering the massive number of well known male artists.
Among comtemporary artists is Emily Sprague, who excells with minimalist music. He music may be what comes the closest to Radigue "drones" nowadays (as far as I know of course).
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Post by loopier on Feb 21, 2020 18:58:45 GMT
Suzanne Ciani, another pioneering synthesist who developed the use of electronics (and her custom Buchla) to create "sound logos".... speaking of which, a video of the master at work:
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Post by Lakef on Feb 24, 2020 13:25:24 GMT
This is a short article about three women who are probably the most influential pioneers of electronic music: Laurie Spiegel, Pauline Oliveros and Eliane Radigue. synthandsoftware.com/2020/02/pioneers-of-electronic-music-laurie-spiegel-pauline-oliveros-and-eliane-radigue/Interesting that they each chose one synth that they then spent years to master and make it the core of their artistic output. It's really not about how many synths or modules you have ... it's what you do with it. Another concept that comes up again in this article is "Deep Listening" and that was touched on in my interview with Ezra Buchla last year, where he also mentioned Pauline Oliveros and Eline Radigue as his influences. I'm really trying ... but how do you find the time nowadays? Anyway, I'm really inspired by these women ... especially in a seemingly male oriented genre. If you know of any others ... please mention them below and let's celebrate the women in electronic music! This, in my opinion, is one of the most important and enlightening posts/topics in this forum! There is far to much valuable information and wisdom in this world that never get noticed as it should, because we are still living in a world where the most storys are told by men...about men. Some really interesting personalities and story are told about in this article. Especially the story of Pauline Oliveros. Her presentation linked in th article -> ....really shows what a magnificent symbioses of scientific and spiritual thinking inhabits this mind. Her concept of differing between hearing and listening brings up something that couldn't be more dramatically up to date and important than in our times....thinking about all the talking and hearing that goes on in the real and virtual world but the given fact that the majority of the world population isnt really (no matter if they dont want or can) listening to each other anymore even tho there is a amount of communication that has never been there before. This is a lesson told by her which is more than worth also thinking about it in a non musical context. Listening to her talking about reverberation and the concept of deep listening which they developed in their group with the same name and reading about the things she had done in the, really makes you think what a buchla synth would sound like if he hadnt met Pauline Oliveros... And @careck about achieving some deeplistening experiences... I think whats the problem about the feeling to „not having enough time“ is that this feeling is driven by our use and conditioning in interacting with modern media. The amount of time we have to listen to music for example is still the same, but the amount and accesabillty expanded drastically over the last decades. The amount of musical data flying around the globe all summed up would leave you with a time span of music no human beeing would ever be abled to even listen to 10% or less of it. This is easily overwhelming for one human mind, so we started to streamline (cant believe how fitting the english termination is in this context) our „use“ of music and „listening“ to or „hearing“ it. The majority of music these days is consumed over online streaming platforms. The algorithm decides what you will be hearing next if you dont use any features to shape the order like you wish. And still when a playlist or something like this finishes the algorithm will pick something for you. Its so easy to get used to it and sometimes you even discover something cool you didnt know before. But you also pay with the loss of connection to the art itself by not picking it your self sometimes. What i really want to say is that I can feel you careck.... and for me a really deep listening experience can just be achieved if I just „take the time“ to have it. Listening to a full album for example, may sound to simple, but looking at the habits ,of consuming music ,of myself and others around me, you also may be wondering when you did this the last time
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Post by Lakef on Feb 24, 2020 13:49:44 GMT
Anne Clark
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Post by sycophante on May 20, 2020 21:41:44 GMT
I think Emilie Gillet from Mutable Instruments is also a Pioneer of comtemporary modular and eurorack
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Post by rockysmalls on May 20, 2020 23:40:31 GMT
Alice Shields , Priscilla McClean, Magdalena Fagandini ( who was one of the ones who started the radiophonic workshop with Daphne Oram ) definitely Ruth Anderson as mentioned and her partner Annea Lockwood, Vera Grey, Beatriz Ferreyra the list goes on.. there are also many humble & hidden male persons in the vanguard oft overlooked.. one has to look at who’s interests are at stake in NOT promoting what is genuinely interesting out there
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Post by rockysmalls on May 20, 2020 23:43:41 GMT
I think Emilie Gillet from Mutable Instruments is also a Pioneer of comtemporary modular and eurorack and a very nice person is she. don’t forget all the ground breaking Palm pilot stuff.. the iphone dream WELL before apple did it.
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Post by admin on May 20, 2020 23:52:19 GMT
I think Emilie Gillet from Mutable Instruments is also a Pioneer of comtemporary modular and eurorack and a very nice person is she. don’t forget all the ground breaking Palm pilot stuff.. the iphone dream WELL before apple did it. Hi rockysmalls could you please elaborate? I wasn't aware that Emilie started out doing Palm Pilot software?
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Post by rockysmalls on May 20, 2020 23:53:40 GMT
There's plenty of women in electronic music. In fact, one pioneer that I would've expected there was Wendy Carlos...not only a woman, but a trans woman, ergo a pioneer in more ways than just music. Wendy's collaboration with Bob Moog was what took the Moog synth from being just an academic tool to a highly desired musical instrument, leading to things such as CV latching, ergonomics that favored musicians over lab techs, initial stabs at polyphony, and the like...besides popularizing the instrument with "Switched-on Bach". Sure, she was "Walter" back then, but she'd identified as female around that general time.
Other women: Daphne Oram, another BBC Radiophonic Workshop pioneer who experimented with optical synthesis via film soundtrack techniques. Suzanne Ciani, another pioneering synthesist who developed the use of electronics (and her custom Buchla) to create "sound logos". There's Ruth Anderson, not only a significant electronic and traditional media composer but a plunderphonics pioneer as well. Bebe Barron, along with her husband Louis, gave us the first electronic music soundtrack with their work for "Forbidden Planet". Ruth White, who'd built her own studio in the mid-1960s after studies with George Antheil. And back to the present, there's Ramona Xavier, better known as Macintosh Plus (among other aliases) where she helped codify the sound of vaporwave.
Lots of 'em...more besides these, too...
and speaking of George Antheil .. what about the very troubled Hedy Lamarr who invented radio frequency hopping with him.. WW2 could have gone a very different way without her! i mean wow.... just WOW.. what a lady, what a story.
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Post by rockysmalls on May 21, 2020 0:02:28 GMT
and a very nice person is she. don’t forget all the ground breaking Palm pilot stuff.. the iphone dream WELL before apple did it. Hi rockysmalls could you please elaborate? I wasn't aware that Emilie started out doing Palm Pilot software? yes.. look up Bhajis Loops .. its a fully functional Daw near enough.. except on the Palm platform.. i used it a lot early 2000’s .. he ( as she was then ) even included a kind of Oblique Strategies thing in it .. the Eno/schmidt one plus a Set by herself and a set by me even!! fine fine pre-social media internet times i suppose discussing Emilie brings us around to mentioning Wendy Carlos definitely we should mention Wendy Carlos..
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Post by rockysmalls on May 21, 2020 0:12:32 GMT
i will say Carsten admin that of the 3 you first mentioned Eliane is my favourite.. it’s a great subject to bring up.. if we were by an open fire drinking rum and all chatting together rather than typing it would run into the small hours for sure...
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Post by rockysmalls on May 21, 2020 0:17:34 GMT
oh wait.. Lugia already mentioned wendy carlos... i was too focussed on his second paragraph that had so many greats like daphne, bebe & ruth 🤪 and mrs Carlos wasn’t all synth classical ,, theres some great experiments early on and even some crazy stuff that sounds like jean-jaques perrey in her back catalog..
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Post by MikMo on May 21, 2020 7:19:43 GMT
Then there is the danish composer Else Marie Padde, who in her own time was more or less neglected by everyone, but shortly before her death a few years ago she finally got the recognition she deserves. She was mostly working with tape and old school studio electronics. One of her main compositions 7 cirkeler (1958) (Seven cirkles) can be seen here: But try to google her name you will find interesting stuff. In her late seventies she was rediscovered by some young danish electronic musicians, and the started a cooperation with her, remaing / remixing / recomposing her work. I was fortunate enough to be part of a group of people arranging concerts in a place in Copenhagen called Lab where we mostly had "odd music",we made a couple of arrangements with this remarkable woman. Even when she was in her early 80s she was completely open to working with young people and trying to understand their music. She was also working for the danish resistance during WWII, and arrested by the germans when she was very young, this gave her serious problems with PTSD later in her life. Bigraphy here in english: www.dacapo-records.dk/en/artists/else-marie-pade
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Post by admin on May 21, 2020 9:24:21 GMT
i will say Carsten admin that of the 3 you first mentioned Eliane is my favourite.. it’s a great subject to bring up.. if we were by an open fire drinking rum and all chatting together rather than typing it would run into the small hours for sure... That would be nice wouldn't it? Hopefully (but doubtful) airline traffic will kick start again and enable us to meet at Superbooth 2021! I'll definitely try to get there next year ... COVID permitting.
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Post by rockysmalls on May 21, 2020 10:17:07 GMT
Then there is the danish composer Else Marie Padde, who in her own time was more or less neglected by everyone, but shortly before her death a few years ago she finally got the recognition she deserves. She was mostly working with tape and old school studio electronics. One of her main compositions 7 cirkeler (1958) (Seven cirkles) can be seen here: But try to google her name you will find interesting stuff. In her late seventies she was rediscovered by some young danish electronic musicians, and the started a cooperation with her, remaing / remixing / recomposing her work. I was fortunate enough to be part of a group of people arranging concerts in a place in Copenhagen called Lab where we mostly had "odd music",we made a couple of arrangements with this remarkable woman. Even when she was in her early 80s she was completely open to working with young people and trying to understand their music. She was also working for the danish resistance during WWII, and arrested by the germans when she was very young, this gave her serious problems with PTSD later in her life. Bigraphy here in english: www.dacapo-records.dk/en/artists/else-marie-padehey... this person is new to me.. many thanks, quite prolific so plenty to dig into..
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Post by rockysmalls on May 21, 2020 10:51:06 GMT
i will say Carsten admin that of the 3 you first mentioned Eliane is my favourite.. it’s a great subject to bring up.. if we were by an open fire drinking rum and all chatting together rather than typing it would run into the small hours for sure... That would be nice wouldn't it? Hopefully (but doubtful) airline traffic will kick start again and enable us to meet at Superbooth 2021! I'll definitely try to get there next year ... COVID permitting. yes, i’m going to make as many journeys out the uk as possible next year ,, i don’t need there to be a vaccine, just so long as they have sorted some treatments out that bring us some better odds against it being fatal. .. that’ll do me, 2 weeks mandatory quarantine might be a sticking point though. i imagine the cost of flights might also go up to a “hmmm i’ll have a little think about that” level.. best start saving that loose change about now.
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