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Post by ben on Feb 10, 2020 21:23:53 GMT
I was wandering how do you sync your AE's LFO?
I have two LFO's but for some reason I'm using my DIY built tap tempo LFO which syncs nicely with external clock source, instead of using an original AE's LFO's.
As an example, do you plug a gate/clock into Sync, or oscillator, or into PWM, or what's your approach to syncing your LFO's to have everything set in correct tempo/click/step?
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Post by Lakef on Feb 11, 2020 20:56:47 GMT
hey ben!
maybe this is not a perfect answer, but i had some good results trying to (somehow) sync modules on the AE by just feeding in some Pocket Operator Audio and splitting its singal in the mixermodul for also using it as sync source.
But I do not really remember how I patched it together exactly and which syncmode I used on the PO ;p will have to try it again to specify what Im talking about.
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Post by ben on Feb 12, 2020 13:04:36 GMT
hey ben! maybe this is not a perfect answer, but i had some good results trying to (somehow) sync modules on the AE by just feeding in some Pocket Operator Audio and splitting its singal in the mixermodul for also using it as sync source. But I do not really remember how I patched it together exactly and which syncmode I used on the PO ;p will have to try it again to specify what Im talking about. Thanks! And does it sync properly, i mean - can the lfo's rate be set to make an every second step, or be set twice as fast as the clock input source by adjusting the rate knob? or does it just output the same step rate as the input? Other question is - I still don't see any practical use of PWM input. Perhaps I'm missing a lot there...  |
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Post by slowscape on Feb 12, 2020 15:45:18 GMT
Sync I believe just restarts the wave from the beginning. So something you could try is set the knobs to exactly the same place (may take a lot of fiddling) and then send them both a single pulse to sync. You can use the step seq or an env for this initial pulse
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Post by Lakef on Feb 12, 2020 21:56:28 GMT
hey ben! maybe this is not a perfect answer, but i had some good results trying to (somehow) sync modules on the AE by just feeding in some Pocket Operator Audio and splitting its singal in the mixermodul for also using it as sync source. But I do not really remember how I patched it together exactly and which syncmode I used on the PO ;p will have to try it again to specify what Im talking about. Thanks! And does it sync properly, i mean - can the lfo's rate be set to make an every second step, or be set twice as fast as the clock input source by adjusting the rate knob? or does it just output the same step rate as the input? Other question is - I still don't see any practical use of PWM input. Perhaps I'm missing a lot there... As far as I remember it depended on the patch in I chose on the modules i tryed to sync. but i believe I mostly used the cv in. but attenuated the PO signal before feeding it into a lfo or vco or something else. but i think u could also use the pwm for syncing purposes, this also depends on your personal preferences. The pwm in just controlles one of the signal behaviours, as Im understanding it, this is just something u want to/ or do not want to use  I think for example you could achieve some cool polyrhythmic like sounds if you also or only use the pwm in for Syncing... note: i only got one lfo The thing about the steps and the overall syncing behaviour highly depends on the external device and its sync options you are using. I took a quick look at the manual of the PO but didn't find any specific information about the sync signal behaviour, only information in which way you can use it for chaining and splitting ->  But in the Volca Sample manual I found some more specific information about the sync signal behaviour ->   I looked in the volca manual because i think they use the same sync signals like the POs. And there you can also see how the sync modes of a volca affect the per step triggering ( but dont know how this works on the POs) So I believe what I achieved was something like a mixed sync/audio signal coming from the PO because i only was abled to get its signal working with the AE over the first and 2nd audio In of the master module, but not over the ctrl In. (maybe someone got some suggestions for the ctrl in? still not quite sure how to trigger something with it using a PO ;p ) And from there i fed the audio signal into the mixer from where i splited it. I dont know if it was synced per step.... felt more like only some parts of the beat itself controlled the sync/cv/pwm of the modules i patched in. I dont know if it was synced perfectly, but for me it sounded like it is fitting, or at least interesting  . But as far as i rememberd I also had the option to toggle the lfo rate while it still stayed on the beat. hope this all somehow makes sense and helps still have to make a youtube and soundcloud acc. to share stuff, its always more simple to just show others what you did |
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Post by ben on Feb 12, 2020 22:33:41 GMT
Lakef oh that's a good one! I've been syncing AEM's tempo from external clock source, which is Korg Volca, and I didn't knew that there's a way to output every second step. That's a cool little detail which might help quite a lot. Yeah, most of the times I was using LFO's PWM input - it was somewhat more pleasing in some particular cases, but that's also exactly what kept me thinking if it's the right way of doing it. I can totally relate to slowscape 's precise fiddling thing The other thing which I started to use more often - to have an input clock signal in one of the LFO's, then send it to step sequencer, and from there to trigger other lfo's, envelopes, or other sources. I love this "One Shot" chip from Electric Druid, which is a sort of LFO and Envelope in between, it has a repeated steps: you can control how many repeated steps you wanna have, also what kind of waveform, how many and what frequency, and also delay.
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Post by jan musi on Oct 9, 2020 23:14:23 GMT
Lakef I have an AE rack on the way and a PO-33 already. If I want to clock my AE rack from my PO-33, is it just as simple as using a headphone splitter to connect the PO-33 output port to 2 of the MASTER module's input ports?
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Post by Lakef on Nov 17, 2020 18:32:57 GMT
Lakef I have an AE rack on the way and a PO-33 already. If I want to clock my AE rack from my PO-33, is it just as simple as using a headphone splitter to connect the PO-33 output port to 2 of the MASTER module's input ports? sry. i do not exactly remember my setup. been fiddeling around with other way to sync... but if I could clearly figure out how i did it ill share the solution  ) |
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I think for example you could achieve some cool polyrhythmic like sounds if you also or only use the pwm in for Syncing...
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