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Post by Lugia on Feb 19, 2020 0:12:06 GMT
Don't need no stinkin' CS-80 video...
...I can just walk across the room!
Now, about analog computers...first of all, they're a massive royal pain. Remember, this is complex tech from, at the very latest, the late 1960s (Comdyna's models notwithstanding)...with the hazards inherent in finding documentation from that period being all over the place with them. F'rinstance, I have THREE Systron-Donner 3300s. But none of them are properly functional. And this is because Systron-Donner dumpstered their old equipment docs back in the late 1980s, making locating service docs a task that's beyond head-explodingly difficult! I've been on that trail since the late 1990s, still without success.
But item #2 is...well, if you think the CV restrictions on the AE System are a bit to wrap your head around, try wrapping your head around +/- 100V outputs. There are a few transistorized analog computers that work in the +/- 10V range, but the vast majority of these things (such as my Systron-Donners) swing from +100 to -100 volts. Now, it would be NICE to modify one of the Systron-Donner mainframes so that it has attenuated outputs...a 20:1 voltage reduction would drop things right into that 5V ballpark (although that would still be bipolar 5V...would need CV foldaround to sort that), but you need the schematics to see how that would work best.
Third...they ain't user-friendly! For one thing, each of these Systron-Donners is a big chunk of steel about the size of yr.typ mixing desk...but it's got "big iron" in it and it's built to scientific specs, so despite the handle on the top, you could hardly consider one of these monsters to be "portable". And these are SMALL analog computers...the BIG ones can take up a deskspace the size of a small car! And then once you deal with all of that...you still need to know how to program them, and that's not exactly like programming a typical modular synth.
But then...when you see them in action in that Hainbach clip, you understand why they're useful. SOMEday I hope to have one functioning here...
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Post by bearheadwood on Feb 19, 2020 3:47:58 GMT
Don't need no stinkin' CS-80 video...
...I can just walk across the room!
You have your own CS-80 video in your room?
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Post by NightMachines on Feb 25, 2020 20:54:58 GMT
Just stumbled upon this old gem again. While I’m not always into this kind of old school synth music, this performance really speaks to me: Also this hands-off Serge patch, oh my god: Edit: and this expressive Linnstrument performance: Edit 2: oh hey, this is my 500th post here What a coincidence. This forum also speaks to me
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Post by admin on Feb 26, 2020 6:36:02 GMT
Hello NightMachines, thank you for all your input into this forum, your help and your videos! Your 500 posts account for just over 10% of all forum posts!
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Post by rodney on Mar 12, 2020 9:23:55 GMT
and, not even really about synths but ...
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Post by rodney on Mar 28, 2020 12:13:37 GMT
In case you thought the 1970s was all about German guys with synths hanging out in Berlin ... French guys hanging out with synths:
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Post by rodney on Mar 28, 2020 12:16:04 GMT
... although Magic Fly is my favourite - and Bilitis
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Post by Lugia on Mar 28, 2020 23:08:35 GMT
In case you thought the 1970s was all about German guys with synths hanging out in Berlin ... Oh, HELL no! It's a bit annoying, though, that the parallel French electronic scene from the 1970s gets such little attention now. You had some MONSTER players there...JMJ, of course, but there was also Richard Pinhas of Helden and HIS monster Moog, Tim Blake of Gong who still resides in Brittany, Eliane Radigue was doing her first ARP 2500 pieces then, Francois Breant and a bunch of people on Barclays' EGG sublabel (including Asmus Tietchens...his first album was on EGG), Dominique Guiot's proto-space work...list goes on and on, really.
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Post by rodney on May 27, 2020 19:43:53 GMT
This has me wondering what a free-form AE module might look and sound like...
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Post by MikMo on May 27, 2020 20:16:16 GMT
It would be small
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Post by rodney on Jun 17, 2020 20:54:07 GMT
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Post by lukylutte on Jun 18, 2020 6:41:18 GMT
Sharing the two video which guided most in my module choice. Hoping it would inspired someone but I guess many already know them... Steevio: and Mylarmelodies which is whu I now have 2 Topograph on my system: Really looking forward the next episode of Mylarmelodies channel's Suggested Systems!
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Post by bert on Jun 19, 2020 10:39:31 GMT
I don't think the Make Noise 0-CTRL has been mentioned on the forum yet. Interesting sequencer, and I found the video by mylarmelodies quite entertaining:
If you're only interested in the three rows of controls for pitch, velocity and timing, three SEQ8 and two ADSR/2ENV from AEM will do (one envelope generator to control the step length with its END output feeding into CLK of the SEQ8). Looking forward to trying this.
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Post by rodney on Jul 2, 2020 3:54:26 GMT
That does look neat. The 0-coast is still one of my favourite instruments so it's nice to see that sensibility in a box the same size. If I had not spotted the AE modular format by accident somewhere, I would've gone down the eurorack rabbit-hole instead of going down this slightly cheaper rabbit-hole.
It uses Capacitance sensing for the keys, AFAIK, but I might stick with a resistive keyboard. I'll see what comes out of my googling and scribbling ...
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Post by bert on Jul 2, 2020 11:05:38 GMT
You are aware of the CVBANK that was announced a while ago, right? Not exactly the same, but I'm waiting for it before investigating in stuff like this.
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Post by lukylutte on Jul 8, 2020 8:05:35 GMT
I like everything in this performance (not mine obviously):
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Post by rodney on Jul 11, 2020 4:06:13 GMT
I was sad to learn only today that Gabi Delgado-Lopez of Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft passed away in March this year.
I loved the punk synth vibe of D.A.F. and it is something that I'm always happy to hear when it creeps into my sound.
This clip throws down the gauntlet for live synth performance, gritty and simple.
Again, Dusseldorf has touched me maybe more than Berlin in my formative years.
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Post by 101 on Jul 12, 2020 19:38:11 GMT
Also features the best 70's presenter hair side-parting
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Post by rodney on Jul 12, 2020 22:37:55 GMT
See? Dusseldorf FTW!
Also, I'm suddenly in love with the aluminium foil drum triggers!
Drummer: Are you sure i won't get electrocuted holding this metal drumstick?
Ralf: Why should you care? You are musikarbeiter! Play!
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Post by Lugia on Jul 13, 2020 0:26:46 GMT
And let's not forget the THIRD member of the Dusseldorf triumvirate...NEU! What an amazing legacy...and of course, don't forget that the original DAF split (post-"Produkt der...") that gave us the Gabi/Robert version ALSO gave us Der Plan! Can was just up the road in Weilerswist, just outside Cologne...and emitting a mysterious, arcane glow just up the road in Bergische Land was the home base of Sirius's greatest composer, Karlheinz Stockhausen.
Definitely the sort of situation where being just ONE fly on the wall would NOT be enough...
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Post by MikMo on Jul 13, 2020 8:32:18 GMT
And also La Düsseldorf, with the human drum machine Klaus Dinger, who was an early Kraftwerk member for a short time.
I might still have the original on vinyl somewhere.
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Post by 101 on Jul 13, 2020 9:27:07 GMT
Love that early German electronic music scene. All of em. Like an explosion of indigenous talent. Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft was such a groundbreaking album during the early new wave / late punk scene.
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