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Post by admin on Jan 1, 2020 13:28:06 GMT
Happy new year everyone!
I wish you all a fantastic new year and that you may achieve all you've dreamed of!
Here's what I dreamed of a year and half ago when I started this forum: To hear and to see more people making music with the AE Modular. And it worked - there's almost a new video or track uploaded every week and the variety of styles and the quality is truly amazing.
But I want more! There are still so many people that are just beginning their journey into modular synthesis and the AE Modular and they are probably in the same boat that I was in last year ... where everything was new, unclear and confusing. Simple things like "How to turn this thing on?" or "What's a basic patch?" or "How do I record the sound?" are not so simple at all and I spent many hours researching the internet and trying various ways to get the right combination of gear (within my limited budget) to record my AE Modular and make my videos.
So this Getting Started video is for those people who are really just starting out and want to record their creations. Please don't be shy - record your stuff - post your stuff on youtube! You are safe in this community, there are no mistakes, no "right" way!
I would love to see and hear even more recordings, and if you don't know (yet) how to do it, then this video is for you:
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Post by MikMo on Jan 1, 2020 14:26:16 GMT
Very good video.
Thank you
Just what i need for my new years resolution: Upgrade my AE synth and spend more time with it.
Mikael
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Post by slowscape on Jan 2, 2020 3:29:26 GMT
Getting a good recording process together was one of my biggest hurdles and still something I’m trying to refine and streamline.
I think it’s really important to have an easy setup, especially for video recording. As I’ve said before modular is really something to be watched. It’s also nice to be able to go back and remember how your patches were built.
So much of modular is lost never to be heard again, this is a cool aspect, but at the same time I feel a real need to document it all!
So I agree, work on those recording setups, everyone!
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Post by loopier on Jan 2, 2020 9:18:55 GMT
Nice video. Thanks @careck!
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Post by MikMo on Jan 2, 2020 10:20:02 GMT
Does anybody have experience with the small mixers that also have USB audio interface? Like for instance: www.thomann.de/dk/behringer_xenyx_q802_usb.htmThat seems like at budget solution for both having a small mixer and an interface? I assume that what would be send out the USB interface is the same as the master mix, is that correct? So the USB interface could be used in the same way Careck uses the 202 interface, or am i completely wrong here ? Is there too much compromise in having dual functionality in one box? Kind regards Mikael |
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Post by ben on Jan 2, 2020 13:43:25 GMT
I do have one of those Behringer USB mixers and it's not ideal for recording and monitoring your sounds. External audio interface is better (or to have both even better). With mixer it's more tricky to have recording going and to listen to other audio track without recording everything at once. With a mixer like this you would have an input audio signal recorded together with whatever output you have (do I make any sense?) - it's a mixer  I mean if you're just recording one track without needing to listen to something else at the same time then it's good. With external audio interface you can have an input and the output separately and it won't record mixed output to the input. With Xenyx you can do a little hack with a few cables to avoid mixed signal feeding into output, by connecting 2-Track input with the output, but it's not ideal and this could damage your mixer if not connected correctly. My personal suggestion would be for you to get a proper external audio interface, and later get a mixer (without usb connection they're even cheaper, as an example same Behringer, with 3-band eq and FX send: www.thomann.de/intl/behringer_xenyx_1202.htm or even better to look with slider pots for better performance). |
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Post by MikMo on Jan 2, 2020 15:59:30 GMT
Thanks for your input, it makes totally sense, you cant route an existing track, and "a new track" to the mixer and only record the new.
Thanks
Mikael
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Post by spacedog on Jan 2, 2020 21:01:42 GMT
Thanks for your input, it makes totally sense, you cant route an existing track, and "a new track" to the mixer and only record the new. Thanks Mikael Whilst I completely agree about a separate mixer and audio interface, and that those Behringer USB mixers are tricky, with correct routing and switching between Control Room (usually monitoring) and Main Mix (usually record path), they do work. Of course, this is assuming some kind of multitrack using a DAW, which can also help in routing. Yes, the USB mixer can be tough for the beginner, especially the Behringer, but it is an entry-level way in to a USB interface, with some external control. |
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Post by spacedog on Jan 2, 2020 21:03:44 GMT
I use an external mixer for capturing many live instruments, all piped into Reaper via a USB interface. I completely recommend that route for versatility and quality.
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Post by admin on Jan 3, 2020 9:58:09 GMT
Does anybody have experience with the small mixers that also have USB audio interface? Like for instance: www.thomann.de/dk/behringer_xenyx_q802_usb.htmThat seems like at budget solution for both having a small mixer and an interface? I assume that what would be send out the USB interface is the same as the master mix, is that correct? So the USB interface could be used in the same way Careck uses the 202 interface, or am i completely wrong here ? Is there too much compromise in having dual functionality in one box? Kind regards Mikael Hi MikMo, I have the slightly bigger version, the Xenyx Q1202 to which I have connected all my synths: AE Modular, AE Mini Modular, Electribe, Volca FM plus a microphone and guitar lead to my bass guitar. I'm using the AUX send to send to my Zoom MS70-CDR multieffects pedal so that I can add effects to any of the attached devices. All Xenyx Q series mixers have a great flaw in that you can't hear your computer and the mixer at the same time when connecting to the PC via USB. It's very frustrating and I've watched countless Youtube videos on hacks with weird cables to overcome this. BUT the easiest workaround is to NOT use the USB connection to the computer at all! Instead I'm routing the Mixer main out to my trusted little Behringer UCA222 and THAT is connected to my PC. My headphones are then connected to the UCA and voila ... I can listen to my PC and the audio from the Q1202 at the same time with no discernable lag. When I make my videos from my desk I then just use the USB cable from the mixer to connect to my Android phone very much like I've shown in the video. It's a great setup and I'm very happy with it. I may have to make another video about this once I've unpacked all my gear again (it's currently all packed in an evacuation bag as I've got bushfires all around in my area). I hope this helps! |
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Post by sc3sc3 on Jan 3, 2020 13:27:41 GMT
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Post by MikMo on Jan 3, 2020 13:38:12 GMT
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Post by MikMo on Jan 3, 2020 15:53:23 GMT
I may have to make another video about this once I've unpacked all my gear again (it's currently all packed in an evacuation bag as I've got bushfires all around in my area). I did hear about the fires, but i was not until i saw the danish news yesterday that i fully understood how serious it is this year. If you need the navy to evacuate people of beaches because they have nowhere else to go, it's bad. We also heard about loss of life ad property - very sad. I hope you and yours will be safe. Mikael |
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I mean if you're just recording one track without needing to listen to something else at the same time then it's good. With external audio interface you can have an input and the output separately and it won't record mixed output to the input.
