morgs
Junior Member
Posts: 54
|
Post by morgs on Aug 25, 2019 12:58:46 GMT
Hi all, I’ve found @careck first six “getting started” video tutorials enormously helpful for beginners like myself. Also those offered by NightMachines. I’d love to see more of these particularly the spotlight type tutorials that look at the following modules: -Logic -Beatdivider -3VC switch -OR2X4 Some of these modules I have, some I’m curious about but can’t ascertain from the description as to whether or not they are what I want in the future for the kind of sound I'm hoping to produce so any tutorial type videos are much appreciated. Additionally, if anyone can point me to an existing video or devise some general sound outputs 101 regarding rule of thumb sort of understandings for what goes to the audio in/mixer in. I’m operating out of logic that the final module of a patch is plugged into one of these (e.g. master, 41/0) but then I get lost on the wire journey and can’t tell where I’ve gone wrong, only that I hear no sound (a very disappointing affair). This seems happen in some of my attempts at the patch challenge. Thanks! |
|
pol
Wiki Editors
Posts: 1,349
|
Post by pol on Aug 25, 2019 14:29:46 GMT
Hi all, I’ve found @careck first six “getting started” video tutorials enormously helpful for beginners like myself. Also those offered by NightMachines . I’d love to see more of these particularly the spotlight type tutorials that look at the following modules: -Logic -Beatdivider -3VC switch -OR2X4 Some of these modules I have, some I’m curious about but can’t ascertain from the description as to whether or not they are what I want in the future for the kind of sound I'm hoping to produce so any tutorial type videos are much appreciated. Additionally, if anyone can point me to an existing video or devise some general sound outputs 101 regarding rule of thumb sort of understandings for what goes to the audio in/mixer in. I’m operating out of logic that the final module of a patch is plugged into one of these (e.g. master, 41/0) but then I get lost on the wire journey and can’t tell where I’ve gone wrong, only that I hear no sound (a very disappointing affair). This seems happen in some of my attempts at the patch challenge. Thanks! I get the dead sound thing sometimes - it's usually I've knocked a lead out! What I've found helpful when starting from scratch is to create the section of a patch and connect that straight to the audio out; for example if I want a particular oscillator sound I plug that straight out to the audio out, and get it like I want. I then put the oscillator into the next stage (mixer or filter), and plug that to audio out, getting that more like I want. Once that is OK, I then plug to the next stage and take the audio out from there - this could be the VCA or FX, delay or whatever. I just keep going so I know where the problem is if it goes dead; you can do this to troubleshot if you have a dead patch - plug a long lead into the audio out and start at the oscillator out and work through your patch/modules until there's no noise and voila! The multiple outs on most AE Modules is brilliant to help with this. Once you know what is stopping the sound you then have to fix it of course.... mine is usually extreme modulation on the VCA or filter, the 2/ATT or 4?mix modules allow you to control the level of modulation very well. Do remember to check the volume on your amplifier/headphones of course... |
|
morgs
Junior Member
Posts: 54
|
Post by morgs on Aug 25, 2019 14:35:46 GMT
Hi all, I’ve found @careck first six “getting started” video tutorials enormously helpful for beginners like myself. Also those offered by NightMachines . I’d love to see more of these particularly the spotlight type tutorials that look at the following modules: -Logic -Beatdivider -3VC switch -OR2X4 Some of these modules I have, some I’m curious about but can’t ascertain from the description as to whether or not they are what I want in the future for the kind of sound I'm hoping to produce so any tutorial type videos are much appreciated. Additionally, if anyone can point me to an existing video or devise some general sound outputs 101 regarding rule of thumb sort of understandings for what goes to the audio in/mixer in. I’m operating out of logic that the final module of a patch is plugged into one of these (e.g. master, 41/0) but then I get lost on the wire journey and can’t tell where I’ve gone wrong, only that I hear no sound (a very disappointing affair). This seems happen in some of my attempts at the patch challenge. Thanks! I get the dead sound thing sometimes - it's usually I've knocked a lead out! What I've found helpful when starting from scratch is to create the section of a patch and connect that straight to the audio out; for example if I want a particular oscillator sound I plug that straight out to the audio out, and get it like I want. I then put the oscillator into the next stage (mixer or filter), and plug that to audio out, getting that more like I want. Once that is OK, I then plug to the next stage and take the audio out from there - this could be the VCA or FX, delay or whatever. I just keep going so I know where the problem is if it goes dead; you can do this to troubleshot if you have a dead patch - plug a long lead into the audio out and start at the oscillator out and work through your patch/modules until there's no noise and voila! The multiple outs on most AE Modules is brilliant to help with this. Once you know what is stopping the sound you then have to fix it of course.... mine is usually extreme modulation on the VCA or filter, the 2/ATT or 4?mix modules allow you to control the level of modulation very well. Do remember to check the volume on your amplifier/headphones of course... |
|
morgs
Junior Member
Posts: 54
|
Post by morgs on Aug 25, 2019 14:45:26 GMT
Thanks so much pol, that's actually a really helpful and logical approach to the process. It makes total sense and for ever reason gives me more confidence to not fall back on getting out the computer to start trying to look for answers online :) |
|
bahm
Full Member
Posts: 154
|
Post by bahm on Aug 25, 2019 15:13:56 GMT
What I've found helpful when starting from scratch is to create the section of a patch and connect that straight to the audio out; for example if I want a particular oscillator sound I plug that straight out to the audio out, and get it like I want. I then put the oscillator into the next stage (mixer or filter), and plug that to audio out, getting that more like I want. Once that is OK, I then plug to the next stage and take the audio out from there - this could be the VCA or FX, delay or whatever. I just keep going so I know where the problem is if it goes dead; you can do this to troubleshot if you have a dead patch - plug a long lead into the audio out and start at the oscillator out and work through your patch/modules until there's no noise and voila! The multiple outs on most AE Modules is brilliant to help with this. Once you know what is stopping the sound you then have to fix it of course.... mine is usually extreme modulation on the VCA or filter, the 2/ATT or 4?mix modules allow you to control the level of modulation very well. Do remember to check the volume on your amplifier/headphones of course... I also search for trouble in the same way. Sometimes it just gets complicated and confusing, but I think that's not always a bad thing. Maybe it would be a nice thing in the future to get a second color for every cable length. Like a brighter Version of the same color. Or also a darker. So we could have 3 different cable lines. In my workflow this could help to get more overall view. And I like pink and bright blue cables anyways. |
|
Lugia
Wiki Editors
Ridiculously busy...ish.
Posts: 556 
|
Post by Lugia on Aug 25, 2019 18:46:15 GMT
<abbr>deleted</abbr>
|
|
ben
Full Member
Posts: 124
|
Post by ben on Aug 26, 2019 13:55:07 GMT
Hi all, I’ve found @careck first six “getting started” video tutorials enormously helpful for beginners like myself. Also those offered by NightMachines . I’d love to see more of these particularly the spotlight type tutorials that look at the following modules: -Logic -Beatdivider -3VC switch -OR2X4 Some of these modules I have, some I’m curious about but can’t ascertain from the description as to whether or not they are what I want in the future for the kind of sound I'm hoping to produce so any tutorial type videos are much appreciated. Additionally, if anyone can point me to an existing video or devise some general sound outputs 101 regarding rule of thumb sort of understandings for what goes to the audio in/mixer in. I’m operating out of logic that the final module of a patch is plugged into one of these (e.g. master, 41/0) but then I get lost on the wire journey and can’t tell where I’ve gone wrong, only that I hear no sound (a very disappointing affair). This seems happen in some of my attempts at the patch challenge. Thanks! I'd love to see/hear more tutorials regarding to your mentioned modules. Description in the product page tells all you need to know, but without physically having those modules - my head just won't twist enough to get it how it all works sonically and what are the different possibilities of using those modules. |
|
pol
Wiki Editors
Posts: 1,349
|
Post by pol on Aug 26, 2019 19:11:30 GMT
Maybe it would be a nice thing in the future to get a second color for every cable length. Like a brighter Version of the same color. Or also a darker. So we could have 3 different cable lines. In my workflow this could help to get more overall view. And I like pink and bright blue cables anyways. I try to stick to one colour for audio, one for CV, 1 for triggers but it usually goes out of the window in the white heat of patching; most of my AE leads are a colour per length which is actually helpful when grabbing out of the box... |
|
Lugia
Wiki Editors
Ridiculously busy...ish.
Posts: 556
|
Post by Lugia on Aug 26, 2019 22:28:41 GMT
Never got used to color-coded patch cables, myself. I've got ONE 3.5mm color here, and it's grey. But then, all you had back in the day _was_ something like grey or black...and when you were doing patches on something like a Moog IIIc + seq that looked like a Belden factory and a Switchcraft distributor threw up all over the patchpanel, things could get...interesting!  |
|
|
|
Post by rodney on Aug 28, 2019 6:21:13 GMT
They all change colour under stage lighting too!
|
|
|
|
Post by spacedog on Aug 28, 2019 7:30:08 GMT
They all change colour under stage lighting too! I do have some "glow in the dark" 3.5mm patch cables, but THIS looks like way more fun |
|
thundersound
Junior Member
A modular world .. from Aa to Thunder and beyond
Posts: 82
|
Post by thundersound on Sept 2, 2019 17:39:16 GMT
Maybe a introducing video with putting the modules into the rack would be nice.
I did not find such a video.
With a starting patch just to test the modules.
|
|
|
|
Post by moruial on Sept 2, 2019 18:11:21 GMT
There is a little sheet with the startr pack wich inculde some basic patch
|
|
