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Post by audiojack on Jul 31, 2019 11:36:12 GMT
I would like to make the most of the 5U I have left in my 19U Rack
I don't know enough about some of the more specialised modules, but this is why I have an AE Moduler
The springverb would be nice, less space than the MultiFX. Sample and Hold perhaps, maybe noise?
I don't think I want topograph or drums just yet.
I'd like to learn about utilities like Logic, 3VCSwitch, [Beat] Divider
Any advice?
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Post by NightMachines on Jul 31, 2019 12:29:04 GMT
While I think the MULTIFX is great, you can do effects externally too. So I would get:
- DIVIDER (not BEAT DIVIDER) - S&H - NOISE - LOGIC - 3VCS
This will let you do crazy experimental things!
Of course if you're more into musical MIDI sequencing, etc. then I'd get the:
- BEAT DIVIDER (good for MIDI clock sync) - DIVIDER - S&H - NOISE - another 2ENV
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Post by moruial on Jul 31, 2019 12:55:08 GMT
With that set up, I would add:
-MULTIFX (haven't got mine yet but it soon will be on it's way) -Sample and Hold -Noise -Logic
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Post by Gaëtan on Jul 31, 2019 13:21:21 GMT
What do you use it for, and how (midi, euro, etc.) ? When you use it, what kind of feature do you think it's missing ?
Chiming in for the duo S&H/Noise, this is useful no matter what.
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Post by audiojack on Jul 31, 2019 13:57:09 GMT
What do you use it for, and how (midi, euro, etc.) ? When you use it, what kind of feature do you think it's missing ?
To learn. No idea what I'm doing For now I'd like to keep it self contained. No external connectivity. With that set up, I would add: -Logic
What does a Logic module do, and how to use it? The TW description is a bit succint. That's interesting. Why would I need another 2ENV?
At the moment I'm a bit concerned that it looks/plays a lot like an standard monophonic analog synth. VCO, LFO, Filter, Envelope, VCA.
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Post by NightMachines on Jul 31, 2019 14:13:01 GMT
That's interesting. Why would I need another 2ENV? At the moment I'm a bit concerned that it looks/plays a lot like an standard monophonic analog synth. VCO, LFO, Filter, Envelope, VCA.
Another 2ENV because you have 2 VCAs and two filters, so four “traditional” envelope destinations. But since you already feel that you’re too close to a traditional synth voice, then I would go all experimental with my first suggestion Logic compares two gate signals and outputs high or low depending on certain conditions. For example it will only output high when input 1 AND 2 are both high. Like this you can set up conditions when gates will fire.
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Post by rockysmalls on Jul 31, 2019 14:22:27 GMT
I would like to make the most of the 5U I have left in my 19U Rack
I don't know enough about some of the more specialised modules, but this is why I have an AE Moduler
The springverb would be nice, less space than the MultiFX. Sample and Hold perhaps, maybe noise?
I don't think I want topograph or drums just yet.
I'd like to learn about utilities like Logic, 3VCSwitch, [Beat] Divider
Any advice?
aha! bespoke 19u rack ,, and the same avatar as on ebay!! It was me who sold you that master & rack . welcome to the forum Nicholas.. or should i say Purplemancer!! ;-] I have no advice to give.. it really depends where you want to go sound-wise.. maybe just get a couple of 1u things and wait to see what robert is cooking up next.. meantime squeeze everything you can out of what you have, thats already quite a lot of permutations you have at yr disposal and you can only really know what you need, further than what you have, by working that stuff into the ground.. good luck and good noizes..
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Post by audiojack on Jul 31, 2019 14:31:17 GMT
aha! bespoke 19u rack, and the same avatar as on ebay!! It was me who sold you that master & rack . welcome to the forum Nicholas.. or should i say Purplemancer!! ;-] I have no idea of what you are talking about
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Post by rockysmalls on Jul 31, 2019 14:47:51 GMT
aha! bespoke 19u rack, and the same avatar as on ebay!! It was me who sold you that master & rack . welcome to the forum Nicholas.. or should i say Purplemancer!! ;-] I have no idea of what you are talking about me neither... and what is ‘ebay’ an unknown force is operating me like a ventriloquist dummy it seems!
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Post by bahm on Jul 31, 2019 16:28:07 GMT
Triq164 is one of my favorite modules.
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Post by Gaëtan on Jul 31, 2019 18:16:49 GMT
What do you use it for, and how (midi, euro, etc.) ? When you use it, what kind of feature do you think it's missing ?
To learn. No idea what I'm doing For now I'd like to keep it self contained. No external connectivity. How do you sequence it ? Also if you want to explore the soundscape a bit, I can recommend a low-pass gate, it's quite fun to play with.
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Post by 101 on Jul 31, 2019 19:59:16 GMT
If your thinking of S&H and NOISE I reckon you'd have to get 2ATT/CV as well to get the most out of them. I'd def get BEATDIVIDER so you can do some external note sequencing or sync with a drum machine / PC DAW. Also MultiFx is a bit redundant unless you've got a stereo output like HPAMP or 4I/O.
If it was me I'd just add in some basic extras: BEATDIVIDER 2ENV 2VCA TRIQ164 - have some triggering fun. and then plan for your next rack
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Post by thetechnobear on Aug 1, 2019 16:31:48 GMT
id echo NightMachines comments.. if you want to experiment with modular, id look to try to bring in some modules that are a bit different from normal subtractive synthesis modules. so for modulation... noise + sample & hold better control your modulation/combine - another 2vca, so you can use for modulation sources or filter envs ... or perhaps an LPG, this frees up one vca fx... id use external fx, but if you want self contained, perhaps the delay? 3vcs & divider, ideally with a logic module. hmm, with 5u its tough... if you want to really experiment something like noise s&h 3vcs divider logic (only thing is, i think this misses the additional vca, if be very tempted to swap either divider or logic for an lpg) ----- if you want a bit more 'conventional' and self contained lpg or 2vca (i think id lean towards the lpg) delay or spring reverb noise s&h 3vcs oh, and while you're ordering ... you might as well order another case
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Post by pol on Aug 1, 2019 21:03:57 GMT
I would definitely add a 2/att or 4/mix attenuator module, will instantly give you more flexibility as can set a range, moderate the level of modulation etc. Be more musical or more bonkers! I have assumed the 4/Mix you have is usually tied up mixing the oscillators.
I would echo others on getting another 2 ENV module, again increases your modulation possibilities dramatically. Ditto the noise module, to increase sound possibilities - pan pipe type sounds or Snare drums are hard to do without one, or you can do the Jarre noise filter sweep....
I personally would get another LFO, one is likely doing vibrato on the oscillators (2 if you want different rates), and one may be doing a trigger or gentle filter modulation; a 3rd means you can another modulation of a different rate on,say, the delay module.
The divider module would give you more possibilities too, in giving you another, adjustable modulation source (if feeding in a clock, could be midi). The beat divider would only be really helpful if you were doing sequencing in your AE.
That's 5, but the multi-fx is brilliant if you are trying to keep the sound inside the AE modular. You could drop the last 2 and get the Multi-FX instead...
The logic module I use mostly to mess with triggers so don't feel would be as useful in your set up, but some people are using to get ring-modulator type FX so, as always, it depends on what you want to do.
If you intend sequencing at some point, a bigger case would be good - you could stick a seq16 module in there now and have a good time, if you do I would recommend the noise module with it as well for reasons mentioned above.
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los
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Post by los on Aug 13, 2019 6:14:54 GMT
1) Another oscillator...and
2) something to make it phase drift a tiny amount...
MORE OSCILLATORS!
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Post by audiojack on Aug 18, 2019 10:46:16 GMT
Thank you for your advice. Having given this some thought, I'm going to trigger/sequence with midi (SQ-1 or Keystep), and I went for
S&H NOISE LOPAG 3VCS
2ATT/CV
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