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Post by audiojack on Jul 6, 2019 10:16:24 GMT
TTNM
At about 9 mins in, there is a suggestion of chat at superbooth about other manufactures making AEM modules.
Does anyone have more information about this exciting hint? Was Robert approached at Superbooth about this? (Bastl comes to mind, how cool would a AEM version of the Kastle be)
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Post by robertlanger on Jul 6, 2019 11:01:16 GMT
A short overview what's going on here: One manufacturer from the Eurorack world is working on an adaption of his speech synthesis module to AE, also in discussion is to bring some modules that are predecessors of Bitranger by casperelectronics, the GRAINS from Ginkosynthese will be added (but produced by tangiblewaves), perhaps the Cloudbusting from error instruments, and a super interesting sequencer from NightMachines! The Kastle: I think this could be a nice DIY project; removing the original case and put it behind the AE faceplate. If there is more interest I can make a printed faceplate for it.
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Post by Gaëtan on Jul 6, 2019 11:14:11 GMT
That sounds interesting ! More sequencing power would be awesome.
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Post by spacedog on Jul 6, 2019 15:48:30 GMT
A short overview what's going on here: One manufacturer from the Eurorack world is working on an adaption of his speech synthesis module to AE, also in discussion is to bring some modules that are predecessors of Bitranger by casperelectronics, the GRAINS from Ginkosynthese will be added (but produced by tangiblewaves), perhaps the Cloudbusting from error instruments, and a super interesting sequencer from NightMachines! The Kastle: I think this could be a nice DIY project; removing the original case and put it behind the AE faceplate. If there is more interest I can make a printed faceplate for it. All most interesting. I look away from the forum for a few minutes and it explodes with excitement. The Kastle is an awesome addition to my AE Modular, that will be good, although it is already dead easy to use them together.
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Post by audiojack on Jul 7, 2019 7:25:10 GMT
The Kastle: I think this could be a nice DIY project; removing the original case and put it behind the AE faceplate. If there is more interest I can make a printed faceplate for it.
This would be soo cool. How do you envisage the faceplate? Would you be able to provide power using the bus? Would you rotate the Kastle 90 degrees to save space?
I think the Kastle design and code are open source. The BOM, schematics and source code are certainly available on the Bastl website and on github. Would it be possible to create a Kastle AEM module from scratch (with permission, of course) that would be fully integrated with the BUS (power, midi etc)?
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jumpinjohnathon
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No... Seriously... I have no idea how I created that Sound!
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Post by jumpinjohnathon on Jul 10, 2019 13:23:51 GMT
That sounds like a great little project for housing the Kastle Robert... I like the idea !
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Post by robertlanger on Jul 15, 2019 8:42:39 GMT
The Kastle: I think this could be a nice DIY project; removing the original case and put it behind the AE faceplate. If there is more interest I can make a printed faceplate for it.
This would be soo cool. How do you envisage the faceplate? Would you be able to provide power using the bus? Would you rotate the Kastle 90 degrees to save space?
I think the Kastle design and code are open source. The BOM, schematics and source code are certainly available on the Bastl website and on github. Would it be possible to create a Kastle AEM module from scratch (with permission, of course) that would be fully integrated with the BUS (power, midi etc)? Creating an AE Kastle is technically no problem; getting permission and agreement on license fees for BASTL is mandatory of course. Let's see - if there is enough interest, why not? But there is lots of other stuff in the devlopment pipe already...
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Post by spacedog on Jul 15, 2019 10:27:03 GMT
This would be soo cool. How do you envisage the faceplate? Would you be able to provide power using the bus? Would you rotate the Kastle 90 degrees to save space?
I think the Kastle design and code are open source. The BOM, schematics and source code are certainly available on the Bastl website and on github. Would it be possible to create a Kastle AEM module from scratch (with permission, of course) that would be fully integrated with the BUS (power, midi etc)? Creating an AE Kastle is technically no problem; getting permission and agreement on license fees for BASTL is mandatory of course. Let's see - if there is enough interest, why not? But there is lots of other stuff in the devlopment pipe already... I'm going to go out on a limb here... I have a Bastl Kastle and it's completely and totally compatible with my AE Modular already. I love using the two together and I've created endless ambient backdrops using the two inter-connected. I also like the flexibility of being able to use it on its own, or with other bits of equipment. For me, its main use is as a complex oscillator module for the AE Modular and it is magnificent at doing that job. Here's the going out on limb bit... What is the advantage of having this as a module within the AE Modular, as opposed to having it as a (very) small add-on piece to the side...? I run mine on batteries (although it could take USB power from a USB module, if I had one). It cross-patches wonderfully. It's so small, I just place it next to my modular. It's available as a kit, if you really want to cut costs. I'm all for porting interesting things into modules, but this one seems almost an unecessary use of limited resource, i.e. robertlanger Now, some more MI modules would NOT be wasting that limited resource. Of couse, there's nothing to stop a keen DIY-er from taking the open source material and trying out the concept, just not as a commercial concept with all that entails. All my opinion, of course.
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Post by bahm on Jul 15, 2019 11:30:58 GMT
+ 1 for the MI stuff. I don't see a reason to use limited robertlanger ressources for this as it's already usable and ok, it could be a nice oscillator but there could be also even nicer ones without the other stuff in this Kastle that's not really necessary in a modular. Just my opinion
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Post by spacedog on Jul 15, 2019 15:38:11 GMT
[...] The Kastle: I think this could be a nice DIY project; removing the original case and put it behind the AE faceplate. If there is more interest I can make a printed faceplate for it. Looking back through this thread, this looks like an easier option and a much better use of resources. I would still prefer mine outside, but others may have different requirements.
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Post by audiojack on Jan 24, 2020 10:06:10 GMT
This would be soo cool. How do you envisage the faceplate? Would you be able to provide power using the bus? Would you rotate the Kastle 90 degrees to save space? I think the Kastle design and code are open source. The BOM, schematics and source code are certainly available on the Bastl website and on github. Would it be possible to create a Kastle AEM module from scratch (with permission, of course) that would be fully integrated with the BUS (power, midi etc)? Creating an AE Kastle is technically no problem; getting permission and agreement on license fees for BASTL is mandatory of course. Let's see - if there is enough interest, why not? But there is lots of other stuff in the devlopment pipe already... Sorry to revive an old thread.
I wrote to Bastl and they have given permission to create an AE Kastle, if that is still of interest.
Or even just a faceplate would be nice
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Post by spacedog on Jan 24, 2020 11:37:28 GMT
Creating an AE Kastle is technically no problem; getting permission and agreement on license fees for BASTL is mandatory of course. Let's see - if there is enough interest, why not? But there is lots of other stuff in the devlopment pipe already... Sorry to revive an old thread.
I wrote to Bastl and they have given permission to create an AE Kastle, if that is still of interest.
Or even just a faceplate would be nice
Well, I still use my Bastl Kastle a lot as a complex oscillator, so this would be a great addition. As I said, it cross-patches wonderfully already and mine sits right next to my AE racks, running off batteries. The new patch cables are a bit of a squeeze in the Kastle, but I have a lot of the old ones anyway.
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Post by rodney on Jan 27, 2020 4:16:07 GMT
I like the idea of rotationg the Kastle 90 degrees. However, because it is 60 x 70mm, it would take up 3 units (75mm) whichever way you mount it. I'd go for a blank AE panel with a hole cut into which you could drop the Kastle. Then you would have enough space to mount header adapters and a few multiples for good measure.
Only 2mm to spare each side so might need reinforcement (having broken one of my front plates within minutes of unboxing). Hopefully, removing the battery holder would get the vertical depth within range.
Although the Kastle doesn't take up much space, it is nice to have everything in one box so I can pick it up and move it. The size element is often ignored when people rave about how cheap the AE system is. For us apartment dwellers, this changes the whole experience as I don't have a dedicated desk for my studio but I might be messing with it on the sofa with headphones, or take it to a cafe with a battery pack. I think this will be a plus for asian markets where many people live in small apartments.
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Post by rodney on Jan 27, 2020 8:54:29 GMT
robertlanger , if you do make a KAEstle module, please consider making the ATtiny chips accessible for removal. Because they are cheap, keeping a handful of them with different firmwares would be inexpensive. However, I can understand that it would be more space-saving to use nifty little SMT ones.
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Post by Lakef on Feb 24, 2020 11:41:36 GMT
lMaybe its a bit late but to get back to the maintopic-> ErrorInstruments
This is a really cool and unique shop. Which also sells its own AE Module. Would love to see this thread expanding in the future. Because if there will be more sellers with their own AE Modules it would be really handy to have them all summed up in one place! Maybe it would be even worth considering to make an extra section in the shop where the shops of other people who produce modules for AE are listed and linked?
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Post by dmoney2000 on Feb 24, 2020 15:26:49 GMT
I have a Kastle that I use with the AE system. It’s great! I mainly use it for it’s stepped voltage generator and lfo. Who doesn’t need another sample and hold?
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Post by spacedog on Feb 24, 2020 15:36:34 GMT
I have a Kastle that I use with the AE system. It’s great! I mainly use it for it’s stepped voltage generator and lfo. Who doesn’t need another sample and hold? Watch out with the new patch cables when cross-patching. At least one of the Kastle's holes is now a bit loose on mine.
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Post by ean on Mar 14, 2020 12:11:13 GMT
I have a Kastle that I use with the AE system. It’s great! I mainly use it for it’s stepped voltage generator and lfo. Who doesn’t need another sample and hold? Watch out with the new patch cables when cross-patching. At least one of the Kastle's holes is now a bit loose on mine. I did always wonder how compatible the castle would be so thanks. I was wondering if the side pins on the micro granny could be useful in anyway with the ae as it's arduino based? I think the Nozoid synths works on the same voltages also and they have some interesting features. miniatmegatron is arduino based, how hackable are these things to be integrated into ae?
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