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Post by 101 on May 8, 2024 21:22:55 GMT
I'm looking for advice. I'm working with 7/8 pattern drums time signature on a tracker (Renoise). To my thinking I can only use 8 of a SEQ16's steps if I want a consistent melody.
Because 7 x 8 = 56. If I use 16 steps the melody would fail at 48. So it has to be 8 looping. That's about right isn't it?
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Post by feijai on May 9, 2024 7:16:42 GMT
Why not set Seq16 to 14 steps? Just attach a patch wire from the step 14 output to the Reset input.
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Post by funbun on May 9, 2024 7:50:18 GMT
Yeah, just use the reset at 7 or 14 steps. Remember the machine doesn't understand time signature. It only understands clocks and pulse. If the pattern repeats after 7 or 14 steps, you will perceive it as 7/8 time, but the machine is simply resetting the sequence after 7 or 14 steps. Here's an example: blackwarriorlures.bandcamp.com/track/the-minimalist |
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Post by 101 on May 9, 2024 13:05:49 GMT
Yes. Thank you all. 14 is much better. Simple arithmetic really (doh!).
@blackwarriorlures I find I have go at a crazy BPM for it to perceive as 7/8.
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Post by funbun on May 9, 2024 21:05:35 GMT
Also think of grouping the beats into 2+2+3 or vice versa. You can also do 5/8 the same way, e.g., 2+3 or 3+2.
What really great is you can have one Seq 8/16 repeating at 7/14 steps while another repeats at 5/10 steps. I've played a lot of music in music school that would alternate almost every other measure from 7/8 to 5/8, even as far as some people playing 5/8 while others were on 7/8. You can get a lot of cool polyrhythms like that.
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Post by pt3r on May 10, 2024 8:44:56 GMT
Polyrhythms are the backbone of most of my rhythmical patches, I don't argue the effectiveness of 4/4 timing since the majority western music is using it but polyrhythms stay fresh longer IMHO. I believe it's hard(er) to entertain people in a 4/4.
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Post by 101 on May 10, 2024 12:59:34 GMT
I'm using a UNO (decent quality) Midi USB lead from the laptop running Renoise as the master clock. But AEM is all over the place clock-wise, though I am running at 340 BPM to be fair.
It synced on the beginning of the Renoise pattern bars for a while at first, with the reset on pin 14 on the SEQ16 coinciding exactly. But it drifts after a while and loses sync.
Hopefully it's the USB element that's the problem. More experimenting required.
My plan was to midi trigger a RD6 from Renoise, so I could get lots of beat variation and fills with lush TR606 sounds.
I'll have to try the Keystep as master clock using a more trad DIN circuit without the laptop, but If it only works with a 56 drum length pattern on the RD6 - I'm not going to be able to program much drum variation (especially at 340 BPM).
Maybe see if the laptop works better as a Midi slave with this arrangement - using samples for beats instead of the RD6.
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