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Post by dmoney2000 on May 23, 2019 16:55:30 GMT
Is there an upper limit on how many modules can be powered from a single Master module? In it’s final form, I think my system will be comprised of three standard (16U) rows. Will I need a second Master to accommodate all this?
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Post by arti on May 23, 2019 18:16:29 GMT
As far as I remember one Master module should be sufficient for 4 standard rows. It was some time ago when I've read about it, and I'm not sure is it still valid answer as a few new modules have appeared since then and some of them may be more demanding (Multi fx I supose) but probably not as much to decline from four rows to less than three so I think You should be covered with one Master. I will probably end with four standard rows hoping my one Master will still be enough.
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Post by 101 on May 23, 2019 19:20:27 GMT
I think I'd be tempted to add another PSU module just for redundancy in a 3rd rack.
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Post by Gaëtan on May 24, 2019 5:52:56 GMT
As AE Modular is getting bigger I feel like this is something that would be nice to have cleared up.
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Post by admin on May 24, 2019 6:30:54 GMT
One master module will definitely power 4 rows. At Superbooth we had a full 3 row system running on battery power for hours.
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Post by bahm on May 24, 2019 7:53:48 GMT
Good to know, but is it technically possible to use 2 master modules and 2 Power power adapters on a connected system? Or 1 more powerful adapter?
A master module with changeable midi channel would also be nice if someone wants to build a really big system.
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Post by admin on May 24, 2019 9:04:10 GMT
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Post by bahm on May 24, 2019 9:22:26 GMT
Ok thanks, good to know. I'm far away from a second case but I have the wide one and if I buy another some day it will probably be a 20x2 too.
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Post by robertlanger on May 25, 2019 12:19:09 GMT
I just prepared for measuring the power cosumption of all modules; indeed, if AE systems are growing there should be a clear information and guidelines how to handle "AE monster systems" ;-) But 4 full rows will work anyway with one MASTER; this should be sufficient for 99% of all AE users for at least the next months.
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Post by NightMachines on Jun 19, 2019 16:51:27 GMT
I was wondering, since all modules apart from the Master module are receiving 5V via the bus, if it was feasible to build a tiny USB-to-AEModular bus connection and power the system from a USB power supply directly? Many USB power banks can provide 2000mA which should be enough to power lots of modules. Does the MIDI-CV interface require 9V, or why is the Master module power input 9V instead of just 5V? Edit: Since I rarely use MIDI and also have a 4I/O module, I wouldn’t necessarily need a module for power. I think I might try to add a 5V power socket to the 4I/O module‘s front panel
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Post by rockysmalls on Jun 19, 2019 17:15:22 GMT
I was wondering, since all modules apart from the Master module are receiving 5V via the bus, if it was feasible to build a tiny USB-to-AEModular bus connection and power the system from a USB power supply directly? Many USB power banks can provide 2000mA which should be enough to power lots of modules. Does the MIDI-CV interface require 9V, or why is the Master module power input 9V instead of just 5V? Edit: Since I rarely use MIDI and also have a 4I/O module, I wouldn’t necessarily need a module for power. I think I might try to add a 5V power socket to the 4I/O module‘s front panel hi Felix, it’s no problem to power from 5v battery or ipad etc usb socket.. like @technobear ( iirc ) i kickstarted the ripcord converters linkthere are a lot of cheaper versions of this around ( and have been for a number of years ) but the ripcord ones went through 3 years of development and design headaches, which means they are much much more unlikely to produce any noise on the inlet which the cheapo’s are prone to do. they tested them on korg Volca’s and work fine for me from a £15 HETP 2650ma battery bank that has a 2.5amp socket as well as a 1amp one.. yes, i am the same.. midi not so important to me, which is why the 1u power thing looks useful,, but you are right, you also lose the In/outs so it would be better on the 4i/o .. 4i/o plus 1u power is not really saving any precious space!!! arrggghhh!
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Post by NightMachines on Jun 19, 2019 17:23:57 GMT
Oh yes, I know about those USB step up converters from 5V to 9V. I was thinking about bypassing the 9V altogether, since the modules inside the case only require 5V and not actually 9V. So one wouldn’t actually need to “burn away” those 4V going from 5V to 9V, but use 5V directly.
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Post by spacedog on Jun 19, 2019 17:55:32 GMT
Oh yes, I know about those USB step up converters from 5V to 9V. I was thinking about bypassing the 9V altogether, since the modules inside the case only require 5V and not actually 9V. So one wouldn’t actually need to “burn away” those 4V going from 5V to 9V, but use 5V directly. If only there was a way of feeding that 4V back into the grid We could all play our part, whilst playing our part, so to speak...
OK, it was a long day today.
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Post by rockysmalls on Jun 19, 2019 18:15:02 GMT
Oh yes, I know about those USB step up converters from 5V to 9V. I was thinking about bypassing the 9V altogether, since the modules inside the case only require 5V and not actually 9V. So one wouldn’t actually need to “burn away” those 4V going from 5V to 9V, but use 5V directly. aha! i get you... I’m not so prone to getting the soldering iron out.. so favour an ‘off the peg’ solution if it’s cheap and available.. not sure you lose so much in the step up / step down process!? but i agree it seems slightly unnecessary.. though good aerobic exercise ... and we all could do with a little more of that...
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Post by NightMachines on Jun 20, 2019 14:57:00 GMT
I assume 9V might give one the possibility of regulating down to 5V in a predictable and stable fashion, while direct 5V input would require the power supply to output clean power and USB power banks and laptop ports etc. might not do that consistently.
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