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Post by NightMachines on Apr 28, 2019 10:59:14 GMT
Hello  I made a quick lowpass filter comparison video: Of course the individual modules can offer a lot more than just that and the modulation ranges, etc. can vary as well, so here are my opinions about them: WASP Filter: The WASP filter has a lot of musical character without the need to dial in many parameters. It loses bottom end and volume at higher resonance levels and doesn't really self-oscillate. NYLE Steiner Parker Filter: This is a feature-packed filter with LP, BP and HP inputs instead of outputs. It's got a raw and sometimes squelchy or rubbery sound. The resonance can be CV-controlled and the filter self-oscillates really well. SVF State Variable Filter: The State Variable Filter offers two audio inputs with different preset amplification levels. The video above demonstrates the hot input, which can overdrive the input signal, adding a nice wave-shaping character to filter sweeps. The lower amp input keeps the signal cleaner. It self-oscillates nicely as well. LOPAG Lowpass Gate: This is not a typical filter, but a vactrol lowpass gate. There is no resonance control and it does not self-oscillate. It is normally meant to be pinged or "struck" by triggers or gates, producing percussive sounds. |
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Post by spacedog on Apr 28, 2019 13:48:43 GMT
Hello I made a quick lowpass filter comparison video: Of course the individual modules can offer a lot more than just that and the modulation ranges, etc. can vary as well, so here are my opinions about them: WASP Filter: The WASP filter has a lot of musical character without the need to dial in many parameters. It loses bottom end and volume at higher resonance levels and doesn't really self-oscillate. NYLE Steiner Parker Filter: This is a feature-packed filter with LP, BP and HP inputs instead of outputs. It's got a raw and sometimes squelchy or rubbery sound. The resonance can be CV-controlled and the filter self-oscillates really well. SVF State Variable Filter: The State Variable Filter offers two audio inputs with different preset amplification levels. The video above demonstrates the hot input, which can overdrive the input signal, adding a nice wave-shaping character to filter sweeps. The lower amp input keeps the signal cleaner. It self-oscillates nicely as well. LOPAG Lowpass Gate: This is not a typical filter, but a vactrol lowpass gate. There is no resonance control and it does not self-oscillate. It is normally meant to be pinged or "struck" by triggers or gates, producing percussive sounds.
For a rounded sequencer thump, I have been preferring the SVF and for outlandish effects the WASP has really stood out. The NYLE deserves more of my time as the potential is huge, the other two are more immediate for me.
The LOPAG is quite specialised and deserves a bit more of my time, although it shines in the more percussive duties in which I've tried it - perhaps when the new modules appear it will be even more useful. I did use the LOPAG quite a bit to work on my Bastl Kastle to get some of the interesting backing sounds as well.
I've also used bothe SVF and the NYLE in parallel and that has produced some of the longer-envelope sounds, with a nice rich movement in there amplified by the effects.
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Post by NightMachines on Apr 28, 2019 17:46:18 GMT
For a rounded sequencer thump, I have been preferring the SVF and for outlandish effects the WASP has really stood out. The NYLE deserves more of my time as the potential is huge, the other two are more immediate for me.
The LOPAG is quite specialised and deserves a bit more of my time, although it shines in the more percussive duties in which I've tried it - perhaps when the new modules appear it will be even more useful. I did use the LOPAG quite a bit to work on my Bastl Kastle to get some of the interesting backing sounds as well.
I've also used bothe SVF and the NYLE in parallel and that has produced some of the longer-envelope sounds, with a nice rich movement in there amplified by the effects.
Thank you! Yes, the filters are indeed quite different. I like the WASP filter as a set and forget module. It's not super versatile, but I like the sound in general very much. The SVF was a great addition by Robert, as it adds versatility at a low price. The NYLE is very different then, with its three spectral mixing (is that a term?!) inputs and CV-able resonance. I often find it requires a bit more fine tuning, but I love it and it's usually the first filter module I patch. Due to its width and many potentiometers it also is very live-tweak friendly |
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Post by arti on Apr 28, 2019 18:48:07 GMT
NightMachines thanks for this. Having Wasp and Nyle, I moved other filters a bit lower in my wish list, buy this SVF sounds VERY good, I think I'll get it sooner than I thought
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Post by Lugia on May 3, 2019 6:38:25 GMT
Had a listen...and yes, Robert got the sound of the Synthacon filter just right! It's got that gritty, screechy crossmod at high resonance thing going on that I distinctly (and fondly) recall from my own Synthacon, capable of creating lead sounds that will tear your head clean off! Sorta wish we'd gotten to hear it in bandpass mode, but that's pretty much spot-on for the LP sound.
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Post by pol on May 3, 2019 20:05:44 GMT
The Wasp is my favourite filter sound wise, (lovely, lovely bass sounds) but playing with the Nyle is great. Recently got the LOpag and not sure yet, but must try the percussive thing....
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I made a quick lowpass filter comparison video:
