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Post by pol on Aug 13, 2023 22:51:34 GMT
I watched a Youtube video the other day about "the 3rd wave of Ska" - mostly about Tragic Kingdom by No Doubt. This is an album I really like, but consider "New" as isn't from when I was really into music - the lates 70s/80s, and faded through the 90s. Bit shocked to realise it's from 1995.... This got me mulling on what new music has come along since the 1990s; I am aware there are millions of genres of dance music, but I lump them as dance and/or rap as, just becuase you use a different bass drum doesn't make it a new genre... There are bands that did something new; Chemical Brothers, Prodigy, Linkin Park spring to mind but I'm struggling to get anything from this century! This is not about good or bad music, this is about whether it is different to what has been done before, or built on a previous style. It is about being popular enough that I notice, in this age of no John Peel and fighting to get attention on social media.... i.e. if it is something that someone has just put on Soundcloud or Bandcamp etc, that doesn't count, it needs to be published music, ideally have charted (although chart sales are so pathetic now it may not matter!); I considered Ed Sheeran, but he isn't really doing anything new, just very good at being a musician/singer in this day/age. I also pondered Country Rock, but that really started in the 1990s, possibly even 80s and has just grown from there. I thought about Taylor Swift, partly as coming from that background but she is basically just a good pop song singer/writer - possibly this generation's Donna Summer, Madonna or Alannis Morrisette (definite maybe on the last one).
This isn't a quest to find music I want to listen to, just curious to know if there are genuinely new genres of music I've missed, and I am open to areas of dance/rap music that good be considered new for a good reason - I liked Trance as a genre but that was the 1990s (and could be considered a sub-genre of dance). I did wonder about all the various (sub) genres of metal but essentially that's metal, which dates back to the 1970s. Jazz is a question mark, but I am unaware of any artists which have brought a contemporary take to the genre and taken it to new places. I am aware of Shoegaze which is supposed to be a "new" genre, but that can be traced back to the 1970s as well.... Drum n Bass, Trap and Techno are all in the dance music genre to me (and date back to the 90s in most cases). There is a question on EDM but not sure that was really new, just marketing, still just dance genre or a slight evolution of previous....
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 14, 2023 10:04:44 GMT
Biggest trend of last decade in pop music was certainly Trap music. Migos, Rae Sremmurd, Post Malone and consorts had multiple #1 hits in the US and large parts of EU. It got infused into loads of pop hits (think Drake, think some Dua Lipa, think the hit 'Havana' which featured weirdo trap legend Young Thug,...).
Loads of autotune, some mumbling, rattling hihatts, subsonic basses and a generally slow tempo are kind of the main aspects that spring to mind.
It's great club music, and i have enjoyed quite some of it's hits, although there are only few really stellar albums in the genre (most are bloated or severely underwritten and low effort, it's not An album genre in general). But mainly it is just great fun imo.
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 14, 2023 11:34:30 GMT
Lumping in trap with 'dance' is pretty insane imo 😅 in that case chemical Brothers didn't do anything new either, then we can all take it back to Detroit & Chicago (let's say Inner City is the blueprint moment when it hit the mainstream).
And then Linkin Park is just another pop-metal outfit which dates back to the 70s..
To me this sounded at least as 'new' in the main stream as all stuff you mentioned. It's really not comparable to 90s or 80s rap at all, it's very far away to 90s dance, i don't really now anything to compare it to in pop music other than 2000s drill rap, which is it's predecessor but never really hit the mainstream.
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Post by Gaëtan on Aug 14, 2023 11:48:24 GMT
All music comes from somewhere so I'm not sure what your goalposts are here. By definition any new style is going to be closely tied to what came before. But I guess I'll mention Dungeon synth ? Yes it has roots in the 90s but it has only been a proper style this last decade and it is quite thriving by now.
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Post by robertlanger on Aug 15, 2023 14:37:16 GMT
Wow, good question! Same came into my mind a few weeks ago too... I'm not good at following all the genres and subgenres, but for my perception, I didn't came across something that immediately brought this feeling of "Wow? What's this?" - no matter if I like it or not. The last time this happened for me was with trance, which was a mindblowing "WOW!!" Maybe I should get in touch with extratone  Really looking forward to hear all your opinions! |
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Post by pol on Aug 15, 2023 15:59:55 GMT
Lumping in trap with 'dance' is pretty insane imo 😅 in that case chemical Brothers didn't do anything new either, then we can all take it back to Detroit & Chicago (let's say Inner City is the blueprint moment when it hit the mainstream). And then Linkin Park is just another pop-metal outfit which dates back to the 70s.. To me this sounded at least as 'new' in the main stream as all stuff you mentioned. It's really not comparable to 90s or 80s rap at all, it's very far away to 90s dance, i don't really now anything to compare it to in pop music other than 2000s drill rap, which is it's predecessor but never really hit the mainstream. To these old ears, this is just more rap music, and it hasn't changed much in decades....  Sort of agree re Inner City, I guess it's the "wow, what the hell is that" moments for something different I'm really driving at.
The usual stuff in the Pop charts, that was the only music I heard growing up, as well as Mum & Dad's classical LPs; I only got into music at all due to Tubeway Army's "Are Friends Electric" just as so different it blew me away, and why I love synths - the sounds you can get from these little boxes I actually only liked one Linkin Park song but they did seem different to me which is why I mentioned them, but you are right in can trace pop metal back to the 70s (at least!), think they were the first to mangle guitar, hip hop beats, rap and other modern production stuff, but may have just been the first to get big....
I put trap in with rap/dance as that was listed as a rap/hip hop sub genre on a couple of websites I browsed... I supposed I'm mixing up hip hop/dance in my original post reading it again... I would like to hear a couple of tracks you think are good examples of trap as I'm not even sure what that label means! Drum n' Bass I get, and know what to expect, but still hip hop/dance really....
Drill rap, for me, is one of the classic "Oh, give it a new name and people will think it's new" genres; Wikipedia.... "Drill is a subgenre of hip hop music that originated in Chicago in the early 2010s. It is sonically similar to the trap music subgenre and lyrically similar"... I'm sure people that are deeply into hip hop style of music can tell all the differences between sub genres but I fail 
Thanks for your input, and not takign too much offence at me putting trap and dance together 
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Post by pol on Aug 15, 2023 16:27:14 GMT
All music comes from somewhere so I'm not sure what your goalposts are here. By definition any new style is going to be closely tied to what came before. But I guess I'll mention Dungeon synth ? Yes it has roots in the 90s but it has only been a proper style this last decade and it is quite thriving by now.
There have been some musical "explosions" - Punk is the obvious one after the intial launch of rock n roll through the 1950s, but there loads of new music styles/ genres in the 60s, 70s and into the 80s that obviously distinct, even to a casual listener, then the 1990s was dance/trance, grunge etc and popular music seems to have stayed pretty much the same since then, occansional throwbacks to old genres but nothing you could call "The 2nd wave of...", "the 3rd British invasion (of USA)" etc. I would be very happy to be wrong which is why I asked my wafflely question! I do agree it is rare something is completely new, but it's having the new twist/update, new combinations that sound fresh and prick these jaded ears up. For me it's often just one or 2 songs by a particular artist - e.g. I love a couple of Green Day songs, but they aren't really "new" or a new genre but, for me, are really good. Most of their output is clearly punk or, at most, post-punk/new wave....
I'd never heard of Dungeon Synth; currently have a compilation playing, lot milder than I expected from "merging black metal and dark ambient"! To be honest, listening to this compilation it's "just" more electronic insturmental music... Maybe like black metal and dark ambient, really sub genre - variations on a them rather than "new". Glad you mentioned it as I have a few new artists that seem interesting to listen to A couple of tracks I've heard have reminded me of early (1970s) Tangerine Dream so really not new; maybe in the modern era where few artists get big, (and music sales are so shite), we have to have these genre lables to find more of the same sort of music? Just started a 2nd compilation playing  Yes, it does take a while to type these long post
There were no goalposts by the way, or if there were, it was pretty wobbly.....
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 15, 2023 17:30:53 GMT
I would never take offence to someone's opinions on music (as long as they don't seem to take offence in other persons' and are not stated aggressive haha), and def not in trying to define/border genres. The deeper you delve into 'genres', the more you see the obvious ridiculous nature of them (a bit like all borders haha), especially when you look close to the defined 'borders'. Trap from roughly 2015-2020 has often been stated to be the 'hiphops punk movement', with loads of lo-fi recordings, underground labels, very young age of the genres 'stars', substance abuse, loads of moshpits at liveshows, etc etc. I think for a 20y old, it was the same feeling as the 'boom' of punk. I think, to jaded ears, it all sounds the same just like it did then. Of course, once it hits the mainstream, it is watered down below a point where it's often just pop music. Just like comparing pop-punk to Death's protopunk. To me at least, the average trap song does not at all sound like 80s popular hiphop (say NWA or Public Enemy), or 90s popular hiphop (say Nas or Jay Z), or 00s popular hiphop (say 50 Cent or Kid Cudi). Not more than comparing for example the Ramones to 'rock music'. It is the same broad genre, but only very broadly speaking. Lumping something with rap in 'hiphop', is like lumping everything with guitars in 'rock' and saying its the same hiphop or dance are really as broad as that. Synthesizer? Dance! Guitar? Rock! Rap? Hiphop! Funny thing with trap music, is that they never refer to the performers as 'singers', but always as rappers. Half of them never rap! Their lyrics are often mediocre (well, like a lot of rock lyrics), because it matters less as they are more singing any way! I'm sure it has something to do with the fact that it is a very black genre, and the fact that its started from hiphop. My favorite trap album is by far Young Thug - JEFFERY. Although it is not a great example of trap as an isolated genre, because it is genre bending in a ton of ways, infusing reggae, pop, r&b,.. Main thing is that Young Thug is probably one of my favorite singers, he really abandons any notion of 'normality' using his voice in the most absurd ways. Really using it as an instrument. It's often funny the first time you hear it, but extremely catchy and memorable at the same time. I love it. My favorite cut of his and of the album: A (very) shortlist of some of my favorite cuts: - $uicideboy$ - Paris: The one closest comparable to punk. Young kids, extreme outfits, extreme moshpits, short songs, dark lyrics. - Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles: When it hits the pop mainstream, and at the same time makes the 'parents mad' because of referencing the beatles, pretending to play guitar,.. Pretty much like poppunk from say Sum 41 or Blink 182 or later Green Day - Lil Uzi Vert - XO Tour Llif3: When it's less aggressive and more Emo, bit like the morph from poppunk to emopunk in early 2000s. Dramatic, sure, but i love this song to dead. (I also love the black parade by My Chemical Romance, so I can take some drama ). But how he takes his voice up at the end of the first verse into the second chorus, damn... Gets me every time. - Tyler, The Creator - Who Dat Boy: Raw, scary, more industrial variant. Tyler switched things up for some more soulful cuts by now, but he has some tough as nails BANGERS. - Vince Staples - Blue Suede: One of Vince's earliest cuts. He's an 'underground' legend by now, made some great, experimental records. - 21 Savage, Offset, Metro Boomin - Ric Flair Drip: probably the most 'pure' trap cut on this list. Slow, minimal drum beat, deep subs, one icy synth line on top, lots of adlibs. Thats it. Don't know what takes this cut above the rest for me, but i'll always vibe to this track. I've been thinking further about your 'new genre' thing, I think most broad new genres can be related to some technological advance. Rock music? Coming from rock n roll that came to fruition with the dawn of guitar amps, louder and grittier sounds. Hiphop music? Made big by the ability to make 'loops' using different record players and dj gear. Dance music? Clearly the dawn of synthesizers was the big one here. Hell, even in classical music, the dawn of minimal was clearly related to the technological ability for tape loops! Ska/reggae/dub, clearly influenced by new recording & studio techniques as well (hello Lee Scratch Perry ). Metal was also clearly influenced and sparked further by advances in guitar pedals & amps (Black Sabbath doesnt really sound metal if you listen nowadays..). I'd say we lump in the advance of DAWs and 'bedroom/laptop' producers, and we get the modern variant of all these genre strains. Trap could never have been made without a daw. Drum n bass is a DAW version of Jungle to my ears. EDM is a DAW version of 90s dance. Dubstep, or rather 'brostep', the commercial skrillex variant is a DAW version of the old-school UK dubstep (Mala, Benga,..). But it does seem like the 'DAW' time has not really sparked a genre as broad and new as 'rock', 'dance' or 'hiphop'. By the way, in UK/Belgium/Netherlands/Germany there has been some '4th wave ska', or rather skapunk/skacore movement, with some small festivals and some new bands (Random Hand, Popes of Chilitown, Faintest Idea,..) and I myself have been releasing some ska-punk-synthesizer-emo music with my band Prize Dink Camp ( shameless plug haha). Last time i had a 'wow this is something DIFFERENT' moment, was when listening to hyper-pop (Charli XCX, 100 Gecs, PC Music label, AG Cook, SOPHIE,..). It is kind of like pumping up the volume on your guitar amp, but now its just all digital DAW clipping. Creating a very different vibe and tones. I guess it could be kind of a punk strain as well in that vain haha. Sorry for the endless ramble! But i had fun going through my trap playlist to come up with some selection |
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Post by Kyaa on Aug 16, 2023 6:55:44 GMT
I have to agree with PC Music (and SOPHIE) hitting the scene in 2013 really wowwing me too. It definitely had some formative effects on the types of stuff I like now.
Anywho, let me scrounge around the ol' box of oddities if you're looking for something fresh.
Ghostigital - Northern Lights
Ummm... So old it's new?
Mssingno - Xe2
Grime is like trap's faded out little brother. One of my favorite genres from the '10s, and Mssingno is one of the best.
If you dig it, also definitely check out Dark0 or Gobstopper Records.
Rustie - Raptor
Probably the wildest thing to come out of the trap era. First time I heard it I couldn't make heads or tails of it (being used to just basic 'crowdpleaser' trap stuff). Looped it until it started making sense and the rest is history, haha. The rest of the album (Green Language) is also great!
Lorenzo Senni - Rave Voyeur
Lorenzo Senni has one of the most unique takes on trance imo. Use them stereo headphones... 🤤
Ic3peak - Kiss of Death
Super unique duo. Lots of crossover between punk, metal, and trap. Saw them live in Chicago and it was amaaaazing.
Well, that's just the tip of my weird little iceberg, hopefully there's something there that can break you out of your genre prison. Lmk if you want any more lol.
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Post by Kyaa on Aug 16, 2023 6:57:38 GMT
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Post by pt3r on Aug 16, 2023 7:41:42 GMT
Lumping music genres together under one moniker is ok as long as that one moniker is music. That said, there is always new music coming out, some more interesting and/or groundbreaking than other. The stuff that really blew me away in the past years is all that weird hyper pop/vaporwave music, the kids are definitely pushing the boundaries of music further and further. So far none of the main stream has been very surprising but that's what makes it main stream I guess. The moment you don't hear new music then your are either listening 24/7 to music, or you're just not listening enough music 'cause there is lots of new music coming out waiting to be listened/(dis)liked. Genres are IMO just a tool to navigate the big ocean of sounds out there.
My son put me onto lots of lil uzi vert, travis scott and this weird techno outfit of Brutalismus 3000 sure some of it sounds like stuff I heard before but the same thing can be said for any genre really, punk music can also be traced back to rock 'n roll which goes back to jazz etc...
Keep your ears (John) peeled and you will always find music to blow your mind.
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 16, 2023 9:32:06 GMT
Lumping music genres together under one moniker is ok as long as that one moniker is music. That said, there is always new music coming out, some more interesting and/or groundbreaking than other. The stuff that really blew me away in the past years is all that weird hyper pop/vaporwave music, the kids are definitely pushing the boundaries of music further and further. So far none of the main stream has been very surprising but that's what makes it main stream I guess. The moment you don't hear new music then your are either listening 24/7 to music, or you're just not listening enough music 'cause there is lots of new music coming out waiting to be listened/(dis)liked. Genres are IMO just a tool to navigate the big ocean of sounds out there. My son put me onto lots of lil uzi vert, travis scott and this weird techno outfit of Brutalismus 3000 sure some of it sounds like stuff I heard before but the same thing can be said for any genre really, punk music can also be traced back to rock 'n roll which goes back to jazz etc... Keep your ears (John) peeled and you will always find music to blow your mind. Brutalismus!! Thats a great one. Would love to see them live at some point. Funny you mention Vaporwave, i was thinking about that one as well, as it clearly had some big influence indirectly on pop music as well (lil uzi vert has a ton of vaporwavey beats). It def did a crossover in the mainstream on the last two albums of The Weeknd as well, the last one was even fully produced by Oneohtrix Point Never, who has been stated as one of the 'founding fathers' of Vaporwave with his 'ECCOJAM VOL1' album in 2010. I love love love this live version of 'Scared to Live', because you have this MEGA popstar on one hand, combined with an absolute experimental noise/ vaporwave/ glitch/.. legend on the piano, and they just bring this ULTRA CHEESY jam that is lifted straight out of an 80s beside of say Lionel Richie. Like it makes 0 sense, feels 100% like a fever dream, and yet it is real haha. |
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Post by pol on Aug 16, 2023 14:23:25 GMT
I would never take offence to someone's opinions on music (as long as they don't seem to take offence in other persons' and are not stated aggressive haha), and def not in trying to define/border genres. The deeper you delve into 'genres', the more you see the obvious ridiculous nature of them (a bit like all borders haha), especially when you look close to the defined 'borders'. Couldn't agree more.... Trap from roughly 2015-2020 has often been stated to be the 'hiphops punk movement', with loads of lo-fi recordings, underground labels, very young age of the genres 'stars', substance abuse, loads of moshpits at liveshows, etc etc. I think for a 20y old, it was the same feeling as the 'boom' of punk. I think, to jaded ears, it all sounds the same just like it did then. Of course, once it hits the mainstream, it is watered down below a point where it's often just pop music. Just like comparing pop-punk to Death's protopunk. hadn't thought of it like this, I can see that a bit more now, just need more variation in the sound to a point where I would notice
To me at least, the average trap song does not at all sound like 80s popular hiphop (say NWA or Public Enemy), or 90s popular hiphop (say Nas or Jay Z), or 00s popular hiphop (say 50 Cent or Kid Cudi). Not more than comparing for example the Ramones to 'rock music'. It is the same broad genre, but only very broadly speaking. Lumping something with rap in 'hiphop', is like lumping everything with guitars in 'rock' and saying its the same hiphop or dance are really as broad as that. Synthesizer? Dance! Guitar? Rock! Rap? Hiphop! I guess this ties in with my thoughts having listened to a few of your selection that each artist has a sound, and I can see it has evolved/changed, and do agree with your analogy re the Ramones and guitar music. I think part of the problem, for me, it that you have very little actual music (melody, chords etc, except in the intro frequently); it is usually just the rhythm, some bass and the rapper/singer which doesn't generate enough variation tio get my attention/interest. Funny thing with trap music, is that they never refer to the performers as 'singers', but always as rappers. Half of them never rap! Their lyrics are often mediocre (well, like a lot of rock lyrics), because it matters less as they are more singing any way! I'm sure it has something to do with the fact that it is a very black genre, and the fact that its started from hiphop. With some artists there is a definite overlap between singing and rap, and "softer" rapping (not the words, the tone) can be like singing but where I can see the lack of the "singer" label is that it rarley sounds like traditional singing. Also the rhythm of the words/chant seem to be a big part of the beat to me, rather than part of the music. My favorite trap album is by far Young Thug - JEFFERY. Although it is not a great example of trap as an isolated genre, because it is genre bending in a ton of ways, infusing reggae, pop, r&b,.. Main thing is that Young Thug is probably one of my favorite singers, he really abandons any notion of 'normality' using his voice in the most absurd ways. Really using it as an instrument. It's often funny the first time you hear it, but extremely catchy and memorable at the same time. I love it. My favorite cut of his and of the album: It didn't do much for me, but was different to what I expected, helped me to see differences in the various styles/genres etc. Ta. A (very) shortlist of some of my favorite cuts: - $uicideboy$ - Paris: The one closest comparable to punk. Young kids, extreme outfits, extreme moshpits, short songs, dark lyrics. - Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles: When it hits the pop mainstream, and at the same time makes the 'parents mad' because of referencing the beatles, pretending to play guitar,.. Pretty much like poppunk from say Sum 41 or Blink 182 or later Green Day - Lil Uzi Vert - XO Tour Llif3: When it's less aggressive and more Emo, bit like the morph from poppunk to emopunk in early 2000s. Dramatic, sure, but i love this song to dead. (I also love the black parade by My Chemical Romance, so I can take some drama ). But how he takes his voice up at the end of the first verse into the second chorus, damn... Gets me every time. - Tyler, The Creator - Who Dat Boy: Raw, scary, more industrial variant. Tyler switched things up for some more soulful cuts by now, but he has some tough as nails BANGERS. - Vince Staples - Blue Suede: One of Vince's earliest cuts. He's an 'underground' legend by now, made some great, experimental records. - 21 Savage, Offset, Metro Boomin - Ric Flair Drip: probably the most 'pure' trap cut on this list. Slow, minimal drum beat, deep subs, one icy synth line on top, lots of adlibs. Thats it. Don't know what takes this cut above the rest for me, but i'll always vibe to this track. Thanks for all these, listened to a couple, I can see that artists have a different sound but still well within the rap/trap genres. Nothign has grabbed me so far, except going on with the "N" word, bitches and hoes.....I've been thinking further about your 'new genre' thing, I think most broad new genres can be related to some technological advance. Rock music? Coming from rock n roll that came to fruition with the dawn of guitar amps, louder and grittier sounds. Hiphop music? Made big by the ability to make 'loops' using different record players and dj gear. Dance music? Clearly the dawn of synthesizers was the big one here. Hell, even in classical music, the dawn of minimal was clearly related to the technological ability for tape loops! Ska/reggae/dub, clearly influenced by new recording & studio techniques as well (hello Lee Scratch Perry ). Metal was also clearly influenced and sparked further by advances in guitar pedals & amps (Black Sabbath doesnt really sound metal if you listen nowadays..). Completely agree; Classical Music is a better example even than modern music, music was written for new instruments, and the modern orchestra evolved over many decades and really is still not a set size or composition of musicians. I'd say we lump in the advance of DAWs and 'bedroom/laptop' producers, and we get the modern variant of all these genre strains. Trap could never have been made without a daw. Drum n bass is a DAW version of Jungle to my ears. EDM is a DAW version of 90s dance. Dubstep, or rather 'brostep', the commercial skrillex variant is a DAW version of the old-school UK dubstep (Mala, Benga,..). But it does seem like the 'DAW' time has not really sparked a genre as broad and new as 'rock', 'dance' or 'hiphop'. Interesting idea, rather like it, and seem to be true - although this could be because someone writes it in their bedroom, never plays it live and so doesn't influence, generate ideas in someone else and so a new music form doesn't evolve...By the way, in UK/Belgium/Netherlands/Germany there has been some '4th wave ska', or rather skapunk/skacore movement, with some small festivals and some new bands (Random Hand, Popes of Chilitown, Faintest Idea,..) and I myself have been releasing some ska-punk-synthesizer-emo music with my band Prize Dink Camp ( shameless plug haha). And why not I don't do Spotify though  Last time i had a 'wow this is something DIFFERENT' moment, was when listening to hyper-pop (Charli XCX, 100 Gecs, PC Music label, AG Cook, SOPHIE,..). It is kind of like pumping up the volume on your guitar amp, but now its just all digital DAW clipping. Creating a very different vibe and tones. I guess it could be kind of a punk strain as well in that vain haha. It's not for me, but agree with your thoughts on it, did remind me of punk's early shambolic stuff.....Sorry for the endless ramble! But i had fun going through my trap playlist to come up with some selection Good, thank you for the time/effort - I doubt I will be a convert, but can see the differences between the sub genres a little better |
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Post by pt3r on Aug 17, 2023 11:10:53 GMT
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Post by pol on Aug 17, 2023 20:32:19 GMT
Also, if you're on the genre hunt, this tool is worth it's weight in gold: everynoise.com/I found this site hilarious, so many genres! Liked it giving examples when you clicked on them - we humans do like to pigeon hole stuff.... |
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Post by Kyaa on Aug 18, 2023 1:45:23 GMT
Also, if you're on the genre hunt, this tool is worth it's weight in gold: everynoise.com/I found this site hilarious, so many genres! Liked it giving examples when you clicked on them - we humans do like to pigeon hole stuff.... Yeah! You can click into each genre too for a network of artists who create music in the genre, along with the most closely related genres and tags. Many an otherwise boring days have been made otherwise un-boring by finding some wackadoodle stuff though here. |
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Post by pt3r on Aug 18, 2023 5:44:56 GMT
The time that went into coming up with al these new sub-sub-sub-sub-genres is just mindblowing |
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Post by pt3r on Aug 18, 2023 7:08:15 GMT
One band that blew my mind with their supreme technicality and interesting new vocabulary is Polyphia, I think even boomers must agree that if you have Steve, I used to headbang into a ventilator, Vai featuring in your song that you must know a thing or two about playing the ol' guitar. The way they manage to combine Prog and Trap into one track...
And the way Animals as leaders have pushed the Prog envelope
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Post by pol on Aug 18, 2023 9:24:48 GMT
I love this, and do sit and listen to the birds in our garden  |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 18, 2023 11:48:53 GMT
I love this, and do sit and listen to the birds in our garden Blackbirds are the best |
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Post by solipsistnation on Aug 18, 2023 16:29:56 GMT
Pfft, blackbirds are SO last year. I only listen to the extremely inaccessible tones of the kakapo. There are only about 250 of them left in the world so they're kind of obscure. Anyway: music.ishkur.com/I love microgenres. 8) A lot of them seem to be mostly references to previous styles-- like, from vaporwave onward (which was deconstructed synthpop) it seems to me like there are a ton of musicians making what is basically faux 80's music ("synthwave," lol) and trying REALLY REALLY HARD not to admit it's all just synthpop, like 1986 with more reverb. I listen to new music constantly, and although there's definitely stuff that doesn't speak to me, 100 gecs is the first thing I've heard that makes me feel like music has moved beyond my generation. Like, hyperpop and the cheerfully ridiculous 160bpm soundcloud remixes of pop music ( Kero Kero Bonito x Hardcore, whoooo yeah. the similar tracks links on that one was sure a rabbit hole of people having fun with DAWs) seemed to follow along from stuff I know and like already, but 100 gecs is... not that? I could probably listen to more and absorb it though. |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 19, 2023 11:04:10 GMT
Pfft, blackbirds are SO last year. I only listen to the extremely inaccessible tones of the kakapo. There are only about 250 of them left in the world so they're kind of obscure. You mean this legendary creature right: |
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Post by maydonpoliris on Aug 20, 2023 0:05:13 GMT
there were some pretty tight Parrot techno beats going on there |
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Post by solipsistnation on Aug 20, 2023 4:55:05 GMT
Pfft, blackbirds are SO last year. I only listen to the extremely inaccessible tones of the kakapo. There are only about 250 of them left in the world so they're kind of obscure. You mean this legendary creature right: That's the one! Stunning! |
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Sort of agree re Inner City, I guess it's the "wow, what the hell is that" moments for something different I'm really driving at.
Yes, it does take a while to type these long post 
