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Post by admin on Apr 8, 2019 10:45:35 GMT
Patch Challenge #13 - It has been Delayed Theme: Create a patch that uses the Delay Module in creative ways. Submission window: Monday 8th Apr -> Monday 15th of Apr (23:59:59) Background: This patch challenge should have been posted last week, but I forgot about it and therefore this challenge is delayed  Also Berlin School music uses Delays in many ways and I just saw at Robert's workshop at the MEFF how he used the Delay in a simple but beautiful way. Make it sing or make it sting, the delay should be in the spotlight!
The challenge is set, and runs during the submission window set out above, however, please feel free to add entries or leave comments after the initial challenge has ended. Each entry should contain:- Link to audio or video example (embedded preferred)
- Short (or not so short) patch notes, explaining how you have built on the above theme
Your entry can be as short/long as you wish, a simple sound or a track, use external fx or synths, do what you can in the time you have - go wild, make the challenge yours! You are welcome to use previous entries, as inspiration, build on them to form something new, or just use in a different way, you are welcome to submit multiple entries. If you are posting on social media (youtube, soundcloud) , please tag with #AEChallenge and #AEModular, and include a link back to the challenge thread here on the AE Modular forum. Everyone is actively encouraged to comment on entries, provide feedback and ideas... you are welcome to continue commenting/discussing outside of the submission window. the more we discuss the more we all learn 
This is part of the AE patch challenge series - if you would like more information, or have ideas for the challenge, please post on the patch challenge thread.
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Post by spacedog on Apr 8, 2019 12:04:11 GMT
Patch Challenge #13 - It has been Delayed Theme: Create a patch that uses the Delay Module in creative ways. Submission window: Monday 8th Apr -> Monday 15th of Apr (23:59:59) Background: This patch challenge should have been posted last week, but I forgot about it and therefore this challenge is delayed Also Berlin School music uses Delays in many ways and I just saw at Robert's workshop at the MEFF how he used the Delay in a simple but beautiful way. Make it sing or make it sting, the delay should be in the spotlight!
The challenge is set, and runs during the submission window set out above, however, please feel free to add entries or leave comments after the initial challenge has ended. Each entry should contain:- Link to audio or video example (embedded preferred)
- Short (or not so short) patch notes, explaining how you have built on the above theme
Your entry can be as short/long as you wish, a simple sound or a track, use external fx or synths, do what you can in the time you have - go wild, make the challenge yours! You are welcome to use previous entries, as inspiration, build on them to form something new, or just use in a different way, you are welcome to submit multiple entries. If you are posting on social media (youtube, soundcloud) , please tag with #AEChallenge and #AEModular, and include a link back to the challenge thread here on the AE Modular forum. Everyone is actively encouraged to comment on entries, provide feedback and ideas... you are welcome to continue commenting/discussing outside of the submission window. the more we discuss the more we all learn
This is part of the AE patch challenge series - if you would like more information, or have ideas for the challenge, please post on the patch challenge thread. A nice challenge, admin, now I need to find some time as this should be right up my alley (or should that be Straße) I do still want to do something for the other excellent ones that I missed from NightMachines. When I watched robertlanger, I noticed (I think) that he used the simple DELAY module, rather than the MULTIFX (which I believe I could see down on the bottom right of his setup). I know that Robert has noted his love for this analogue delay, and I must also state my love for it, it's a great wooly-sounding delay that just works. I even went away and read about the PT2399 that's inside it. As I use a lot of delay in what I do, I own quite a few delay pedals, including some analogue ones (some quite expensive) and that simple little module stands up very well. I'm sure that I will have to buy at least another one in my next batch of modules |
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Post by bahm on Apr 9, 2019 11:15:56 GMT
This is my patch.
Triq164>Wavefolder>Waspfilter>Delay>SVfilter
The lfos are synced to the triq too and cv the filter and the delay mixed with others..
Just some delayed clicking sounds.
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Post by admin on Apr 9, 2019 11:27:51 GMT
Hi bahm I like the minimalism of it. The clicking really brings out the delay very nicely. Then it moves from the clear clicking to a more washed together mix which developed really well. Great effort ... shows that even with only a few modules one can create a very interesting soundscape. |
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Post by spacedog on Apr 9, 2019 11:38:56 GMT
This is my patch. Triq164>Wavefolder>Waspfilter>Delay>SVfilter The lfos are synced to the triq too and cv the filter and the delay mixed with others.. Just some delayed clicking sounds. Thanks, bahm, some interesting sounds. Admittedly, my pet dolphin took offence at about 02:10 - I don't know what you said Keep the experiments coming, you would be amazed at how much everyone can get from these. |
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Post by spacedog on Apr 13, 2019 23:04:20 GMT
I managed a couple of hours with the modular today after too much work this week. I decided to patch up a sequencer and just play around with it in real-time, including adjusting the sequence length and the repeat amount. Of course there was analogue delay on it,plus a bit of phasing and reverb courtesy of a couple of pedals.
I played for a long time, but you don't need (or want) to hear it all, so it's the first few minutes.
It was fun just using the modular, although I do need to investigate why when I connect anything to the CV1 of the VCO it pulls the oscillator down about half a semi-tone. That's with nothing (in theory) going into the input. I had to retune the oscillator slghtly sharper when I connected the SEQ16 to get it to play in tune compared to on its own. That was with all SEQ16 CVs set to position I.
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Post by arti on Apr 13, 2019 23:59:29 GMT
I must admit spacedog, these Berlin school sequences of Yours are irresistible to me. |
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Post by spacedog on Apr 14, 2019 12:13:33 GMT
I must admit spacedog , these Berlin school sequences of Yours are irresistible to me. Resistance is (of course) futile
I just set the last six of my Bandcamp releases to Name your Price" should you wish to indulge yourself further... grab 'em whilst they're effectively free. All but "Time Cabinet" have between " a lot" and " some" AE Modular on them. "Time Cabinet" predates its arrival and also has virtually no beats - it's a fun trip though |
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Post by pol on Apr 14, 2019 17:19:29 GMT
I managed a couple of hours with the modular today after too much work this week. I decided to patch up a sequencer and just play around with it in real-time, including adjusting the sequence length and the repeat amount. Of course there was analogue delay on it,plus a bit of phasing and reverb courtesy of a couple of pedals.
I played for a long time, but you don't need (or want) to hear it all, so it's the first few minutes.
It was fun just using the modular, although I do need to investigate why when I connect anything to the CV1 of the VCO it pulls the oscillator down about half a semi-tone. That's with nothing (in theory) going into the input. I had to retune the oscillator slghtly sharper when I connected the SEQ16 to get it to play in tune compared to on its own. That was with all SEQ16 CVs set to position I.
Really like this one Space dog, early TD but more accessible! |
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Post by admin on Apr 15, 2019 12:15:21 GMT
Ok .. my entry will be - delayed - I have been in total chaos for the last week with my music station having been dissolved in the process of a major re-shuffle of furniture. Now that my new music station is slowly being built I hope that I can send in my entry with plenty of delay!
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Post by admin on Apr 16, 2019 11:40:17 GMT
OK here is my entry, the delay module is only a backdrop in this ... but that's all I could do in a short time frame. I mostly tried to get those smooth synth lines like spacedog using just the MultiFX. |
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Post by moruial on Apr 16, 2019 11:50:29 GMT
Nice work @careck. excuse my curiosity bu I can't figure what the SEQ16 is trigger :/
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Post by admin on Apr 16, 2019 12:02:45 GMT
Nice work @careck. excuse my curiosity bu I can't figure what the SEQ16 is trigger :/ Thank you, I'm glad you asked OSC1 is sending a sawtooth wave to a VCA. This VCA opens with a quite short envelope and sends the signal to the delay .. because the delay has a long delay time and the wet knob is quite far to the right it gets a lot of "echoes". The TRIQ164 is triggering a new output into the delay only every second beat. I hope that I'm using the term "syncopated" correctly here spacedog may be able to correct me. Both the OSC1 (the delayed voice) and OSC2 (the lead voice) get a pitch CV from the Keyboard, but OSC1 is pitched higher than OSC2 (I think it may be one or two octaves, but I actually didn't use a tuner for this so I'm just guessing) so it seems as if there are two different melodic lines when it's actually only one. OSC2 (the lead) is going through the Wasp Filter and that is opened by another envelope with a really long attack so it "lags" behind OSC1 when I change the pitch. That's another trick to make it seem as if there are two different melodies. Hah! I'm saying "trick" as if I knew what I was doing! In fact, I'm also just fooling around and sticking cables into modules and turning knobs this way and that and hope something comes out that may be called "music" if one is very very kind. |
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Post by spacedog on Apr 16, 2019 14:12:26 GMT
Nice work @careck. excuse my curiosity bu I can't figure what the SEQ16 is trigger :/ Thank you, I'm glad you asked OSC1 is sending a sawtooth wave to a VCA. This VCA opens with a quite short envelope and sends the signal to the delay .. because the delay has a long delay time and the wet knob is quite far to the right it gets a lot of "echoes". The TRIQ164 is triggering a new output into the delay only every second beat. I hope that I'm using the term "syncopated" correctly here spacedog may be able to correct me. Both the OSC1 (the delayed voice) and OSC2 (the lead voice) get a pitch CV from the Keyboard, but OSC1 is pitched higher than OSC2 (I think it may be one or two octaves, but I actually didn't use a tuner for this so I'm just guessing) so it seems as if there are two different melodic lines when it's actually only one. OSC2 (the lead) is going through the Wasp Filter and that is opened by another envelope with a really long attack so it "lags" behind OSC1 when I change the pitch. That's another trick to make it seem as if there are two different melodies. Hah! I'm saying "trick" as if I knew what I was doing! In fact, I'm also just fooling around and sticking cables into modules and turning knobs this way and that and hope something comes out that may be called "music" if one is very very kind. Aha, admin , all of the best tricks start with fooling about - then the real trick is to remember what you did and do it again Interesting use of the DELAY module there, and I enjoyed you timing the delay by ear. Funnily enough, at about 1:04 you hit a sweetspot to my ears, that gave an interesting pulse that, for me, equals syncopation (i.e. there is a pulse to the music that isn't necessarily the main beat). Then I heard what you were seeking to achieve and your delay timing worked better After reading your description I went back and listened again and really enjoyed what you were doing. I spend a lot of time "tuning" my delays and sometimes the sweetspot isn't where you expect it to be. I tried being very scientific about it at one time, with BPM and ms, then I discovered that my ear is quite good and sometimes found things that my calculator didn't. Tap Tempo and MIDI-sync can all do the job as well, but usually your ears get the job done. Klaus Schulze wrote an interesting piece about how he met and worked with Michael Shrieve (the drummer with Sanata) and Michael taught him how to tell when his syncopated rhythms were great - his method was that you could walk in a funky fashion around the room to them. That still makes me laugh, but it is so true. To hear what Klaus and Michael did together, this takes you to an exciting part of their LP, which happens to feature a totally uncredited Carlos Santana as well as Manuel Gottsching (a total hero of mine) going really quite crazy in 1981. Anyway, your description reminded me of part of the second verse of Black Magic Woman: Start messing around with your tricks
Don't turn your back on me baby
You just might pick up my magic sticksOK, we found your tricks, now I need to find my magic sticks Great stuff, and worth the wait. |
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Also Berlin School music uses Delays in many ways and I just saw at Robert's workshop at the MEFF how he used the Delay in a simple but beautiful way. Make it sing or make it sting, the delay should be in the spotlight!
