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Post by ayuptom on May 2, 2022 16:40:30 GMT
I've had my o_C for about a month now but only just trying it since it needs quite a bit of learning I needed some dedicated time.
Having an issue with the CV out, I'm using copiermaschine but the CV is v. high. I'm only getting about 2 octaves and have to have it set on either -5 or -4 octave to get any playable cv into my oscillators. note the octave settings range from -5 to +5.
my oscillators are tuned as low as they will go. It's not a very usable situation atm. has anyone else also got this issue?
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Post by ampersands on May 2, 2022 19:24:49 GMT
I don't have a multimeter so i skipped stage 3 - "calibrate DAC channels"
At 'calibrate CV inputs' -
I found that each CV input was at something like 1700 by default so adjusted them all down to zero - lots of encoder turning!
Adjusting the CV input scaling - again, no multimeter, but i took it on trust - connected a cable from A out to CV1 in and long press the right encoder to set the offset value.
As far as i can tell the module is now working as it should be!
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Post by ayuptom on May 13, 2022 10:38:18 GMT
I meant to thanks you ampersands for your message. Yes I calibrated the module and it worked as expected. Have had fun since learning the CopierMaschine - so much to it! really enjoying it  |
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Post by ampersands on May 13, 2022 10:59:59 GMT
Ah great, I'm glad it worked for you too! Maybe this is something we should put on the wiki page (as well as a note about how to change the encoder direction) as these seem to be common queries and o_C is complex at the best of times. Not sure who is in charge of the wiki though - admin? |
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Post by ayuptom on May 13, 2022 11:23:25 GMT
I think you're right, it would be good to inform folks they should attempt the calibration at least once - it's not hard. I did use my multimeter and it seemed like all the settings were out by about the same amount.
There's so much to learn about the module too. I'm finding the original O_c wiki/docs a bit confusing as they're a bit terse and assume people must know parts, like how the CV3 changes the mask rotation on the Copier Maschnie - I can't work it out... It's such a deep module. It's really good though
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Post by lukylutte on May 13, 2022 14:04:36 GMT
Don't have multimeter and don't really want to buy one. I guess I should. Might need to put a disclaimer on the shop page as well that it needs to be calibrated... Mine went back as it had other problems. Hopefully it will came back calibrated 🤞.
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Post by funbun on May 13, 2022 18:22:10 GMT
Yeah, I think I'm going to send mine back as well. I also have an oscillator that won't calibrate, so now might be a good time for both.
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Post by dmoney2000 on Jul 28, 2022 14:12:42 GMT
Hmmmmm. I hadn't performed any calibrations and I was able to get decent results by reducing the input gain (by default it's at 1.0, the max), and lowering the cv output by 2-3 octaves. But I bet I can get better results with this calibration so I'll try that. Thanks for the info!
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Post by ampersands on Jul 28, 2022 15:33:44 GMT
Yeah that works too, i did the same thing at first. Calibration has the benefit of making that adjustment permanent so no need to think about it every time |
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Post by jota on Jul 28, 2022 18:05:54 GMT
VERY helpful thread! thanks a lot, guys!
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Post by pol on Jul 28, 2022 21:59:41 GMT
Put a note in the O&Cs Wiki page patch suggestions to connect to this thread; seemd the easiest way to kep all informed!
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Post by rockysmalls on Mar 9, 2023 17:51:04 GMT
I don't have a multimeter so i skipped stage 3 - "calibrate DAC channels"
At 'calibrate CV inputs' -
I found that each CV input was at something like 1700 by default so adjusted them all down to zero - lots of encoder turning!
Adjusting the CV input scaling - again, no multimeter, but i took it on trust - connected a cable from A out to CV1 in and long press the right encoder to set the offset value.
As far as i can tell the module is now working as it should be!
thank you gentlemen,, this thread has been most helpful ... voltages aren’t always perfect in AE land but this info helped me get usable results out of the CV recorder in Hemispheres suite.. NOW, if only someone could fathom out how come the Metronome applet doesn’t show the play button or multiply on mine!? i can adjust the tempo on it to my hearts content but it won’t run , either in background mode OR just as a visible app so i can use the clock cv out from it ?? somethings missing somehow and i can’t figure it out  still, it’s a beast of a (dual) module |
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Post by rockysmalls on Mar 9, 2023 18:05:05 GMT
DOH!!
further reading : to start metronome in ‘internal’ clock mode LONG PRESS LEFT ENCODER .... this is great , all the tempo based apps now have their own clock ,, and once its going you can still use two separate apps with clock in background...
yeeeehaw!!
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Post by ampersands on Aug 21, 2023 0:01:44 GMT
So i've had my o_C on stock firmware since day one, but today i found and installed this alt firmware: Phazerville Suite
it's a fork of Benispheres, which in turn is a fork of Hemispheres  this one includes some tweaks and quality of life improvements, and as well as the Hemisphere applets it retains some of the stock o_C apps, as well. I've only had time for a little play with it but it's definitely reignited my interest in a module which has been overlooked for a while! Such a shame it's unavailable right now and looks like it might be forever unless the community adapts o_C for an actually-available version of Teensy... |
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Post by ampersands on Aug 26, 2023 15:29:31 GMT
Further adventures in Ornaments & Crimes.....
I got curious about some of the Phazerville / Hemispheres apps including the Captain MIDI script for midi in/out. Decided to pop the Teensy out for inspection and promptly snapped two of the legs off it, requiring some delicate repair work, whoops
All fixed up and ready to go , the o_C DIY instructions include an optional step where you cut the trace on the teensy for USB power, this isn't done on the AE version which is fair enough because the usb socket is hidden away inside. It does mean you can't connect to usb while the module is being rack-powered (because you'd be double powering it). But i'm feeling adventurous today, so cut the trace (and checked with a multimeter!) and connected back to bus power, then connected the Teensy to a computer with a micro > usb A cable. Tested it out with a little bit of Orca and... we have USB midi!!!
For longer term usb access i managed to feed a cable through one of the ventilation/tuning holes in the rack bottom panel
I look forward to doing some midi with this, glad it didn't mess up too much because i only remembered afterwards that Teensy 3.2s will probably never be available again  |
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Post by rockysmalls on Aug 27, 2023 2:22:21 GMT
So i've had my o_C on stock firmware since day one, but today i found and installed this alt firmware: Phazerville Suite
it's a fork of Benispheres, which in turn is a fork of Hemispheres this one includes some tweaks and quality of life improvements, and as well as the Hemisphere applets it retains some of the stock o_C apps, as well. I've only had time for a little play with it but it's definitely reignited my interest in a module which has been overlooked for a while! Such a shame it's unavailable right now and looks like it might be forever unless the community adapts o_C for an actually-available version of Teensy... yes, and it has some cool new things like Ebb & Lfo and also the LoFi Echo which will make odd 8bit oscillatory noises at high feedback , it’s been on mine for a month or 2 .. stock 2 version has Viznutcracker suite in there too.. i was tempted to do the midi thing ... but the possibilities are already hurting my head so i saved it for a rainy day |
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Post by 101 on Aug 27, 2023 14:39:30 GMT
I've had my o_C (original firmware) sitting in the rack a while now while I figure out how to use it. I figured that the sequins app would probably not have its sequencer notes interpreted correctly by my oscillators. I wondered if it might help sending sequins CV to my quantiser module first?
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this one includes some tweaks and quality of life improvements, and as well as the Hemisphere applets it retains some of the stock o_C apps, as well. I've only had time for a little play with it but it's definitely reignited my interest in a module which has been overlooked for a while! Such a shame it's unavailable right now and looks like it might be forever unless the community adapts o_C for an actually-available version of Teensy...
