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Post by lukylutte on Dec 12, 2021 10:16:43 GMT
I made a little system for yesterday's jam. The aim was to have only the Euclid grid as trigger generator and check how I could introduce it into the main system. First impression: I'm really happy and amazed how simple and deep it could be. Only the S&H couldn't be used since the trigger somehow aren't triggering it and I was out of patch cable or module to use something else to trigger it...
Special mention for all the other goodies which have been used as well: Wonkystuff Core1.æ, Moco, Kyaa Euclid Grid which all were fun to explore.
All sound from Ae system with only neutral master chain in Ableton when exporting the audio.
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Post by Kyaa on Dec 12, 2021 18:14:41 GMT
Awesome jam! Glad to see vids/clips of Euclid Grid out in the wild. 😁
Yeah, unfortunately I found out a little late that Euclid Grid's outputs are on the weaker side, and thus have some trouble triggering some things. In those cases, though, it's quite simple to amplify the signal, or buffer it with the logic module for example.
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Post by S&E on Dec 13, 2021 6:37:36 GMT
Awesome jam! Glad to see vids/clips of Euclid Grid out in the wild. 😁 Yeah, unfortunately I found out a little late that Euclid Grid's outputs are on the weaker side, and thus have some trouble triggering some things. In those cases, though, it's quite simple to amplify the signal, or buffer it with the logic module for example. Is it possible to hear more about this problem and the ways it may surface itself or affect things? Does it affect all outputs? Also, is it possible to remedy the problem in future batches? Not trying to make a big deal of it, just trying to understand it as best I can. |
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Post by lukylutte on Dec 13, 2021 8:22:15 GMT
So far it's only with the S&H. All the other modules I have tried it with were okay. Got to experiment more when I'll have time.
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Post by Kyaa on Dec 13, 2021 17:21:35 GMT
Is it possible to hear more about this problem and the ways it may surface itself or affect things? Does it affect all outputs? Also, is it possible to remedy the problem in future batches? Not trying to make a big deal of it, just trying to understand it as best I can. So, the issue would indeed affect all outputs, as the architecture of all the outputs are the same. To my knowledge, they are built 'to spec', as the output is (roughly) five volts. My guess as to why EG isn't property triggering 2S&H is because the current is too low. Unfortunately, Robert hasn't defined a current target for the AE system, so it appears that by sheer dumb luck, EG and 2S&H don't play well together. I'd expect that this is the exception, though, and not the norm. To be honest I'm not really sure what the best approach would be to remedy the issue besides amplifying or buffering the output of every pin. This would add complexity and cost to the boards as well as delay the next batch, as I'd need to re-work the boards, and re-test prototypes. At this point I think the best approach is to just use other modules in the system to amplify and/or buffer the signal when needed. This is modular after all. 😉 Attachments:
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Post by Kyaa on Dec 13, 2021 17:26:43 GMT
Also worth clarifying, 2S&H is also the only module I've seen the problem with.
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Post by lukylutte on Dec 15, 2021 8:14:20 GMT
Here is an other one from the same jam session when a friend joined in with his volvas and tr8.
I still have an other one recorded when we're 4 playing at the same time but I need time to edit it...
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Post by S&E on Dec 16, 2021 1:06:18 GMT
Also worth clarifying, 2S&H is also the only module I've seen the problem with. Ok cool. I ordered a couple of amplifying type modules for this or other I may need something like that. Thanks for the clear details also, it seems it's best to keep moving as regular. |
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Post by lukylutte on Dec 18, 2021 11:56:52 GMT
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Post by lukylutte on Dec 27, 2021 10:19:22 GMT
Last part of the jam from the same first session. Pretty happy with the mix considering we were 4 to play at once.
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