Sine the TBD will be programmable would it be possible to have firmware that can quantize in division of the octave other than 12? I want to get into xenharmonic music, but there isn't an AE quantizer capable as of yet. Could the TBD handle something like this?
Sine the TBD will be programmable would it be possible to have firmware that can quantize in division of the octave other than 12? I want to get into xenharmonic music, but there isn't an AE quantizer capable as of yet. Could the TBD handle something like this?
Hi funbun , yes in principle to use any CV-quantisation is no problem with the TBD.
But you have to keep in mind that it's not aimed at giving out CV. So you either would have to implement the soundsource you are intending for your application as well, or you could try an experimental CV output via its audio-out, but I have not done that myself, yet.
In more detail: the TBD's framework offers standard ways for reading CV/Trigger/Audio and giving out Audio. So if you want to use CV out you would loose the option to give out audio for that plugin.
Also, normally, in contrast to tangible wave's programmable GRAINS module you normally would not modify the firmware itself, but add a plugin with your application to it.
So if audio-out then is used as CV out, this might be puzzeling for other users, in case you want to redistribute your creation?
In terms of the TBD's hardware design it also might be tricky to do proper CV out, because the hardware-codec used is aimed at audio, so in contrast to the CV input afaik there is no calibration intended by the framework. So in result you would have to do that in your plugin as well, for instance via sliders on the Webinterface and save the calibration as a preset.
But again: all this is kind of theoretical speculation and would have to be tried out in praxis ;-)
BTW: Another, maybe easier alternative would be to use tangible waves' GRAINS for this. I did some experimentation with CV output which worked quite alright, but tbh, did not intend / try out proper intonation, but only generated kind of 'funny' LFO signals.
Last Edit: Sept 23, 2021 10:35:17 GMT by visuellemusik
Post by keurslagerkurt on Sept 23, 2021 20:47:48 GMT
Hmmm, or maybe to have a plugin that is a 'quantized synth'? Like it outputs audio, but the incoming pitch CV is also quantized/mapped to a certain scale?
Hmmm, or maybe to have a plugin that is a 'quantized synth'? Like it outputs audio, but the incoming pitch CV is also quantized/mapped to a certain scale?
Synth and quantizer in one!
The TBD can do this, or at least be programmed to do it.
Hmmm, or maybe to have a plugin that is a 'quantized synth'? Like it outputs audio, but the incoming pitch CV is also quantized/mapped to a certain scale?
Synth and quantizer in one!
The TBD can do this, or at least be programmed to do it.
Yes indeed, there are some plugins available offering various ways of pitch-quantisation, including the following:
Bjorklund, Karpuskl, Formantor, Freakwaves, and VctrSnt
Formantor, Karpuskl and VctrSnt only offer chromatic scale-correction, whereas Bjorklund and Freakwaves include various scales to choose from.
Karpuskl yet offers the playing of polyphonic chords inpired by the so-called Stradella method as to be found with Akkordeons.
Distributed among 5 octaves for each octave another type of chord (major, minor,...) can be played, the chord's notes then also are pitch-quantized.
The root-key simply is determined by the key pressed per octave - or more precicely actually of course by the (optionally quantized) CV coming in.
Post by robertlanger on Sept 24, 2021 12:49:40 GMT
IMO, the "CV counterpart" of TBD is Ornament & Crime; we will port this to AE too in the near future. O&C is able to the xenharmonic stuff as I found in the changelog; see here:
"Common to CopierMaschine, Quantermain, Meta-Q, Sequins: - addition of a large number of microtonal and xen-harmonic scales.
. the value for each note in the scale/mask editor is now displayed in cents (1200 cents per octave) instead of in the internal format (1536 values per octave)"
Scales, custom-scales, and non-octaval (non-1V/oct) tunings. o_C comes with > 100 predefined scales (modifiable in the source code) plus 4 user-defined scales editable directly through the module user interface; for details on the scale-editor, see Quantermain below; for more information on custom scales see here; for a list of the predefined scales, see here.
many of the predefined scales are microtonal i.e. they have more than 12 notes per octave, or they are subsets of tunings with more than 12 notes per octave. o_C supports scales with up to 16 notes per octave (but those 16 notes are arbitrary and themselves can be subsets of scales with many more than 16 notes per octave).
Non-octaval tunings for the xenharmonically obsessed in addition, it’s possible to select from a choice of alternative non-octaval tunings (per channel):
Wendy Carlos alpha scale Wendy Carlos beta scale Wendy Carlos gamma scale Tritaval tuning (as used by the Bohlen-Pierce macrotonal scale), and Quartertone scale (which essentially downscales to 0.5V/oct) some of these non-octaval tunings are designed to work with particular scales eg the Carlos tunings work well with normal 12-TET scales, while the tritaval tuning is intended to work specifically with the Bohlen-Pierce scales and related harmonic scales — see the full list here. the alternative tunings can be accessed by long-pressing the left encoder in the scale-editor. (Select the channel turning the right encoder; the left encoder is used to select from the choice of tunings). Use of alternative tunings is indicated by a dashed line underneath the top menu row (the line is solid when using the default 1V/oct).
Wow! This is good! This is the module I should wait for.