cpruby
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Post by cpruby on Jun 19, 2021 20:38:14 GMT
I asked this on the Discord channel, but thought this might be more appropriate for the forums. What do you do to help get the most out of your sequencer? Any tips and tricks you would like to recommend?
I was experimenting with trying to extend sequences with a CV switch and a logic module. I made a sequencer with my SEQ16. Then I plugged a 5v signal into one of switches and routed that to the logic input 1a. Then I routed the gate output for step 5 to the logic module input 1b. Finally I routed the 1and output to the sequencer reset.
This functionally let me loop the first 4 steps and then press a button to open the whole sequence.
Another trick is to have one sequencer play a chord progression at a slower clock division and then mix the signal with another sequencer (or rbss or S&H noise) so the second sequence will change with the overall progression. If you can do this in tune without a quantizer then I would believe you to be a wizard.
There were some other great ideas from the Discord, but I'll let them post it themselves!
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Post by pol on Jun 19, 2021 21:10:44 GMT
Not doing Discord I can't say if this has been said already!
The Seq16 module being set voltages on another knob to the step and switchable to 2.5v output can be great as a cv modulation generator, almost like having a controllable LFO waveform. Using the Slew/edge enhances this greatly. If you want more changes, you can use the steps' individual outs to add (via mixer) or subtract (via invertor in e.g. 2CVTools module). Yes, this is a trigger, not a CV but still gives you variation, using a 4ATT/Mix or a ENV/VCA to modulate the level helps....
Another thing I like to do when just fiddling is to use a CV from the sequencer to adjust the rate of the LFO doing the clock, yet to incorporate this into a song but I'd like to! It has helped me write a few bass lines though... I tend to put it through the 4ATT/MIX or 2ATT/CV to attenuate as needed.
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Post by maydonpoliris on Jun 19, 2021 21:39:43 GMT
These are really cool tips.
I'm trying to create a breakcore type sequence where a few steps are different slowish tempos and then the tempo speeds up enormously for a bit then goes back to slowish again.
So far using Lfo's triq164, seq16, rbss, topograph I haven't been able to nail it and getting this via a changing temp'd slope externally.
I don't have the skew/edge yet.
Think I need something like above to get me to think out of the box or I'm missing the obvious due to the same old reflex patching. Cheers.
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cpruby
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Post by cpruby on Jul 1, 2021 6:31:22 GMT
These are really cool tips. I'm trying to create a breakcore type sequence where a few steps are different slowish tempos and then the tempo speeds up enormously for a bit then goes back to slowish again. So far using Lfo's triq164, seq16, rbss, topograph I haven't been able to nail it and getting this via a changing temp'd slope externally. I don't have the skew/edge yet. Think I need something like above to get me to think out of the box or I'm missing the obvious due to the same old reflex patching. Cheers. Maybe use an ENV as your clock signal? So loop an ENV and take the gate output to clock the drums. Then you can modulate the attack/decay to vary the tempo. I don't know breakcore, so I'm just guessing a little. I thought of another idea: using the sequencer as a semi-random note selector. So this idea would be to tune a sequencer to the notes of interest and then send the clock through a LOGIC module with a note on gate signal. Then the "or" output would go to the clock of the sequencer. Then you can play a note (say through MIDI) and the gate on would then sustain the step of the sequencer. I was thinking of trying to trigger a gate with a guitar and create some semi-random harmonization. If you wanted it to be less random, then you could just use the gate signal to just advance the clock too, if you don't have a LOGIC module. |
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Post by maydonpoliris on Jul 1, 2021 10:37:33 GMT
These are really cool tips. I'm trying to create a breakcore type sequence where a few steps are different slowish tempos and then the tempo speeds up enormously for a bit then goes back to slowish again. So far using Lfo's triq164, seq16, rbss, topograph I haven't been able to nail it and getting this via a changing temp'd slope externally. I don't have the skew/edge yet. Think I need something like above to get me to think out of the box or I'm missing the obvious due to the same old reflex patching. Cheers. Maybe use an ENV as your clock signal? So loop an ENV and take the gate output to clock the drums. Then you can modulate the attack/decay to vary the tempo. I don't know breakcore, so I'm just guessing a little. I thought of another idea: using the sequencer as a semi-random note selector. So this idea would be to tune a sequencer to the notes of interest and then send the clock through a LOGIC module with a note on gate signal. Then the "or" output would go to the clock of the sequencer. Then you can play a note (say through MIDI) and the gate on would then sustain the step of the sequencer. I was thinking of trying to trigger a gate with a guitar and create some semi-random harmonization. If you wanted it to be less random, then you could just use the gate signal to just advance the clock too, if you don't have a LOGIC module. Thanks cpruby for having a think on how it could work. I will play around with these ideas, especially like the random note selector one. Interesting what could come of that. Triggering a gate using a guitar is fun, especially through the logic module. I had more fun when feeding the guitar through a reverb or fuzz pedal to open the gate longer and more random as the note progressed. I'm guessing all of the internal FX modules could work for this too, have not tried that yet I just realised. |
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Post by cpruby on Jul 1, 2021 19:30:58 GMT
Yeah, a little off topic, but my use case is going to be playing a guitar that has a 13 pin output into a Roland GR33 that has a midi output. I don't really trust the pitch detection, but I think it would do gate pretty well. I would have to experiment and see if it will retrig or not. Then I can noodle over a scale and I would get a shifting harmony with the sequencer.
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Post by maydonpoliris on Jul 2, 2021 7:59:33 GMT
Yeah, a little off topic, but my use case is going to be playing a guitar that has a 13 pin output into a Roland GR33 that has a midi output. I don't really trust the pitch detection, but I think it would do gate pretty well. I would have to experiment and see if it will retrig or not. Then I can noodle over a scale and I would get a shifting harmony with the sequencer. that sounds pretty cool. would love to hear or see the results of your experiments. |
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Post by pol on Jul 2, 2021 8:00:15 GMT
Yeah, a little off topic, but my use case is going to be playing a guitar that has a 13 pin output into a Roland GR33 that has a midi output. I don't really trust the pitch detection, but I think it would do gate pretty well. I would have to experiment and see if it will retrig or not. Then I can noodle over a scale and I would get a shifting harmony with the sequencer. be good to hear sound/ video as to how well it works one day. |
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