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Post by Jihel on Feb 12, 2021 6:35:15 GMT
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Post by admin on Feb 12, 2021 6:44:59 GMT
Looks good and interesting Eurorack modules.
Will you get the Eurorack frame from tangible waves to fit the AE into your rack?
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Post by Jihel on Feb 12, 2021 6:48:47 GMT
Yes, the 12U AEM adapter frame (= 60 HP Eurorack).
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Post by funbun on Feb 12, 2021 21:25:18 GMT
Sweet! Now for all the Serge Modules!
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Post by Jihel on Feb 13, 2021 8:11:19 GMT
Many Serge modules are in Eurorack format (see Random*Source on Modular Grid). But I can't imagine these modules in AEM format...
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Post by robertlanger on Feb 13, 2021 9:20:10 GMT
But I can't imagine these modules in AEM format...
Why not?
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Post by Jihel on Feb 13, 2021 9:42:41 GMT
Because the Serge modules use big electronic circuits... Of course, now we can miniaturize circuits but in AEM format you need to consume more U, and, yes, why not ?
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Post by funbun on Feb 13, 2021 12:16:39 GMT
Because the Serge modules use big electronic circuits... Of course, now we can miniaturize circuits but in AEM format you need to consume more U, and, yes, why not ? Northern Light Modular already makes 2U Buchla modules. AE could totally make Serge modules!
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Feb 13, 2021 12:47:01 GMT
I was looking at the Serge Double Slope Gen schematics yesterday, and the good news is that Serge's favorite IC, the LM3900, should run on 5V. The bad news is, for me at least, that I have very little understanding of how these specific opamps work and was completely lost in the circuit haha. But I see learning electronics design as a marathon, not a sprint!
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Post by Jihel on Feb 13, 2021 13:10:26 GMT
Yes, but NLM modules are big (vs AEM) and expensive. The problem is for miniaturizing electronic circuits. Multi-PCBs like in Euroracks ? But we break the AEM format, or we build large AEM modules (minimum 4U or 8U). But why not ? We are all interested in Serge and Buchla modules more cheaper...
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Post by funbun on Feb 13, 2021 15:17:05 GMT
But we break the AEM format, or we build large AEM modules (minimum 4U or 8U).
But why not ? We are all interested in Serge and Buchla modules more cheaper...
Well, I wouldn't say it'd break it. Look at the DRONE38 and MIXCONSOLE modules and their breakout/expander modules. Remember that the SEQ16 is 4U, and it only it plays five notes! There are twelve notes in the Western tempered scale. By necessity the AE Modular system will have to get bigger once you move past basic bread-and-butter, meat-and-potato modules. Given that Robert has released the 20U four-row case tells me that there are plans for bigger modules in the future. Again look at the size of the WAVETABLES oscillator. Note that is the only "fully-featured" oscillator for AE, and it takes up 3U. The same for the Steiner fitter. I have no problem with a Serge Smooth and Step Generator being 6U wide, a Universal Slope Generator being 3U or 4U, Dual Universal Slope at 6U or 8U. We definitely need a complex sequencer. In fact I'm devoting the entire bottom row of my 16U rack purely for sequencing: - SEQ16 * 2
- SEQ8
- BEAT DIVIDER
- MM DIVIDER
- rbss
- TRIP
- MIXER
- 3VCSWITCH
I'm simply patching a complex sequencer out on smaller modules. If it was all available as one 16U module, I'd buy it, especially if it had a memory, multiple tracks, more steps, and groups of tracks and steps.
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Feb 13, 2021 17:49:14 GMT
Complex, digital sequencers would be great.
At this time however, I can also very smoothly link my Digitakt with its fantastic sequencer. For me, a small module that allows to read multiple Midi channels and have multiple cv & gate out for this channels would in se be as functional as a complex sequencer module. Digitakt can sequence 8 Midi tracks at once. Maybe I should try doing it diy with a Teensy or Arduino? But still have to dive into programming those..
However, I also like the idea of AE as a powerful standalone device, so I would probably still buy the complex sequencer anyway.
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