derp
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Post by derp on Nov 19, 2020 1:48:14 GMT
Coming from a death metal and Industrial background, I love me some distortion. Without a dedicated distortion module, how's everyone getting their angry noise fix?
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Post by slowscape on Nov 19, 2020 4:51:42 GMT
Wavefolder with the drive turned up does a pretty good job, especially on weird waveforms. You can get some nice distortion out of the MM33 as well.
I've randomly discovered very electric guitar-like sounds twice now, I forget the exact routing. I'll come back here the next time I discover a method
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Post by NightMachines on Nov 19, 2020 7:28:18 GMT
You can use the 2CVTOOL and POLAMIX to offset an audio signal so that it clips.
You can also mix the same signal together twice and turn up the volume until the mixer distorts.
And you can feed a mixer‘s output back into its input. Running this feedback signal through a filter before going back into the mixer lets you shape the sound.
Sending an audio signal through a S&H and triggering that with a square VCO (or anything else at audio rates) creates a downsampling effect.
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Post by robertlanger on Nov 19, 2020 11:16:38 GMT
Another option: Wait for the DISTORTION module ;-) ...joking aside, the recommendations of slowscape and tuesdaynightmachines are great! Nevertheless, I'm already thinking about a dedicated distortion modules with different diodes etc. I'll keep you in mind as beta tester, if you like! You seem the right one for the job :-)
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Post by 101 on Nov 19, 2020 12:38:15 GMT
The Nand input/output on the Logic module does a pretty nice gritty sound
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Post by funbun on Nov 19, 2020 13:04:06 GMT
You can also drive the resonance on your filters to make it scream! That's not distortion, but a way to "mangle" the waveform if all you have is filters.
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Post by slowscape on Nov 19, 2020 21:16:47 GMT
First track is very much what (I imagine) you're after!
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Post by arti on Nov 19, 2020 22:08:12 GMT
You can also drive the resonance on your filters to make it scream! That's not distortion, but a way to "mangle" the waveform if all you have is filters. and let screaming filters through Wavefolder to achieve distorted scream. Would it be something like death metal growl? Have to actualy try this myself when I'll have the AEM free of current patch.
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Post by Lugia on Nov 19, 2020 22:08:21 GMT
Audio through the LOGIC is always good for screwing up waveforms...plus, if we get a comparator module at some point, those are magic bullets for clipping and wrecking waveforms.
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Post by foxermod on Nov 19, 2020 22:11:25 GMT
First off - it's good to know that there are others interested in getting these sounds. I have a longtime love for goth/industrial/darktech music, and I've been trying to navigate the best way to get distorted sounds with my AE. I recently started putting the audio output of the whole synth to an old '90s DOD Metal Guitar Multitap (which has a delay, chorus, and distortion - as well as stereo out). I send all my sounds to the mixer 4-4 module, and then mix/level it the way I want when the distortion on the multitap is on. I've been having a lot of fun adding guitar pedals. Edit: It's the DOD TR3M Metal Guitar Multi FX guitarfx.eu/en/multi-effect/1702-dod-tr3m-metal-guitar-multi-effect.html
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Post by arti on Nov 19, 2020 22:13:57 GMT
Coming from a death metal and Industrial background, I love me some distortion. Without a dedicated distortion module, how's everyone getting their angry noise fix? Cool! Do You know Igor Cavalera is into modular synths nowdays? He uses Eurorack and, among others, has Gristleizer module designed by Cris Carter (Throbbing Gristle) which, I'm sure, is more than apropriate for distorted sounds Sadly there is no AE version of it (yet).
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Post by MaxRichardson97 on Nov 19, 2020 23:54:51 GMT
As others have said, the MM33 has very cool potential for grit! Looping things back into feedback loops can generate some really weird and unexpected results!
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Post by admin on Nov 20, 2020 0:43:55 GMT
Cool! Do You know Igor Cavalera is into modular synths nowdays? He uses Eurorack and, among others, has Gristleizer module designed by Cris Carter (Throbbing Gristle) which, I'm sure, is more than apropriate for distorted sounds Sadly there is no AE version of it (yet). I have actually built the Gristleizer Eurorack module and I can attest to its grizzly sounds! BUT if you look at it, it's really just an amp with overdrive plus VCF and an LFO, so you can build it yourself with the 2SIGNALAMP, 2VCA, 2LFO and a filter, eg. WASP is nice.
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Post by sycophante on Nov 20, 2020 13:35:36 GMT
A send my reverbed mix through the wavefolder, lot of drive, and fold so it is at its more crispy. Really crazy results!
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Post by NightMachines on Nov 20, 2020 18:20:00 GMT
Here are a few simple sound examples and patch ideas I must say that I like the 2SIGNALAMP distortion. Seems to have a somewhat "metallic" sound. Also the mixer feedback seems nicely crunchy.
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Post by Lugia on Nov 21, 2020 2:20:31 GMT
This is no ordinary distortion box. Left to its own devices, it will sneak out of your studio while you sleep unawares and CLAW YER FACE OFF!!!!! When all the controls are dimed, this has a fuzz/distortion sound that makes the infamously-fuzzy guitar on "Spirit in the Sky" sound like something out of the "Teletubbies" soundtrack! Drums via one of these just turn into jagged, wrecked shards of bashing.
TBH, if AE were to get a distorter module, the most fantastic thing would be for Robert to team up with Cuvave to devise a version of this as an AE module. It's actually very controllable...but if you want to break every lease within a square mile of you, this box can do that!
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Post by dizzeesatchel on Nov 21, 2020 14:14:55 GMT
That's a very nice sounding fuzz for the price! I haven't really got into sending audio through external effects yet, but at some point I definitely need to try pairing AE with my beloved glitch computer
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Post by arti on Nov 21, 2020 23:33:40 GMT
Coming from a death metal and Industrial background, I love me some distortion. Without a dedicated distortion module, how's everyone getting their angry noise fix? Here's my atempt. Morbid Angel it is not but industrial? Hell yeah! The changes in the distorted sound come from several different knobs positions on WASP filter (freq and resonance) and WAVEFOLDER (drive) while searching for some sweet spots. Other important ingridients: Deepspace effect on MULTIFX, Spring Reverb and Delay modules and sawtooth output from one of the oscillators send into mod input (set to freq) to add more dirt. There is also bass voice and some drums. All AEM. I include photo of the patch.
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Post by derp on Nov 22, 2020 3:27:31 GMT
Another option: Wait for the DISTORTION module ;-) ...joking aside, the recommendations of slowscape and tuesdaynightmachines are great! Nevertheless, I'm already thinking about a dedicated distortion modules with different diodes etc. I'll keep you in mind as beta tester, if you like! You seem the right one for the job :-) It would be an honor and a privilege!
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Post by derp on Nov 22, 2020 3:30:50 GMT
Here are a few simple sound examples and patch ideas I must say that I like the 2SIGNALAMP distortion. Seems to have a somewhat "metallic" sound. Also the mixer feedback seems nicely crunchy. Sweet. I just ordered one of those. Sounds awesome in your vid. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Gaëtan on Jun 9, 2021 7:20:52 GMT
I have a little tip that I have found recently, because I got inspired by overdrive stacking in the guitar pedals world. If you overdrive the 2amp too much is doesn't sound very good. So if you want more saturation, slightly overdrive the first channel, then take the output to the other channel, and slightly overdrive that too. It sounds MUCH better that way !
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Jun 9, 2021 17:35:25 GMT
Missed this thread at the time (I think I just received my first starter rack around that point! ) but like to point out a little self promotion after all these other fantastic tips: My Quad Boost is a straightforward, guitarpedal inspired (LPB-1 for the nerds) drive circuit. Feed it moderate to high volume inputs, and you'll be able to get classic overdriven/distorted sounds. Not the RAT-style crunchy distortion, but more of the classic, bit mellower distortion with lots of low end. The Dead Band is actually also very good at distorting sounds, but in a much more aggressive/unstable way. Lots of crackles, weird glitches,.. a good one for experimenting! You can find both kits hereDemo of both of them destroying the strings of Solina: Lugia : I hope to release my 'Five Steps' module in AE format somewhere this summer. I mainly built it with an 'arpeggiator' type module in mind, but it actually features four different comparator circuits, ánd you have access to these comparators' logical output too they won't have all flexibility of a dedicated module, but i had lots of fun with the breadboard prototype already. Last note: I managed to get some nice clipping/distorted sounds out of the 2VCA as well, if you feed it a high volume input and turn it all the way up (as is also mentioned on the wiki/store page i think?)
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Post by ean on Jun 9, 2021 22:18:02 GMT
I like guitar pedals but I think they can take the bass away or be noisy. I was reading about mixer distortion and how producers in the 90s used to drive the gain to acheive overdrive. I decided to take a chance on a cheap mixer (yamaha102c) that was supposed to break up and sound nice.
I turned up the gain up and to my suprise it did exactly what I wanted. I don't lose frequencies and the noise issues are a vast improvement over my pedals. The effect is from soft clipping to overdrive. Turn the gain up too much and the sound will become unpleasant, but this is easily avoidable. The eq section makes a huge difference in what frequencies are driven and this can greatly enhance the tone of the sound.
So now I have the ridiculous set up of a mixer before a mixer. Pretty stupid I know So far I use it on basses and percussion from my DAW plugins and samples. I don't know what type of circuit is being pushed but I really like it. I just tried the AE on it and its a nice bit of added gain.
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Post by pol on Jun 13, 2021 18:11:51 GMT
Probably teaching you to suck eggs but just overloading your mixer/amp inputs can produce some great distortions (inc the 4ATT/Mix in the AE)..... As mentioned try the Wavefolder, 2Sig lamp (you will be I note!), filter modules (Wasp is my favourite for this, Lopag can be good) or . Not quite distortion but the Lofi delay is pretty good although I prefer the not overloaded sound. I am awaiting the arrival of the spring reverb and I'll let you know if this can be good distorted.
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