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Post by NightMachines on Mar 4, 2019 19:00:51 GMT
Make some Noise! Theme: Create a piece using noise as your main (or only) audio source. Submission window: Monday 4th March -> Monday 11th March (23:59:59) Background:Noise comes in various forms of randomness and color. Experiment with noise as your main audio source, or if you like the added challenge, as your only audio source this week. If you do not own or do not want to use the tangible waves NOISE module, feel free to send external noise audio signals into your AE Modular instead.
The challenge is set, and runs during the submission window set out above, however, please feel free to add entries or leave comments after the initial challenge has ended. Each entry should contain:- Link to audio or video example (embedded preferred)
- Short (or not so short) patch notes, explaining how you have built on the above theme
Your entry can be as short/long as you wish, a simple sound or a track, use external fx or synths, do what you can in the time you have - go wild, make the challenge yours! You are welcome to use previous entries, as inspiration, build on them to form something new, or just use in a different way, you are welcome to submit multiple entries. If you are posting on social media (youtube, soundcloud) , please tag with #AEChallenge and #AEModular, and include a link back to the challenge thread here on the AE Modular forum. Everyone is actively encouraged to comment on entries, provide feedback and ideas... you are welcome to continue commenting/discussing outside of the submission window. The more we discuss, the more we all learn
This is part of the AE patch challenge series - if you would like more information, or have ideas for the challenge, please post on the patch challenge thread.
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Post by arti on Mar 5, 2019 10:17:23 GMT
Pure filtered, modulated, delayed analog/digital noise as the sound source. Not for the faint-hearted But if You happen to like aggresive electro I invite You to my 'arti of noise' Some harsh noise oubursts reminded me aggresive black metal/electro chanting so I've used them for (kinda) vocal parts . Only because of this challange I've discovered that D on the AE Noise module stands for digital noise. Cool!
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Post by admin on Mar 5, 2019 10:34:24 GMT
Pure filtered, modulated, delayed analog/digital noise as the sound source. Not for the faint-hearted Help, I'm being chased by a horde of Zombies through a dark subway tunnel while more and more fully lit trains zip past from all directions causing me to jump left and right as if I was a bull fighter in a nightmare dreamt by Hemingway as he was riding a wounded Elephant. In other words, I love it!
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Post by arti on Mar 5, 2019 10:47:48 GMT
Help, I'm being chased by a horde of Zombies through a dark subway tunnel while more and more fully lit trains zip past from all directions causing me to jump left and right as if I was a bull fighter in a nightmare dreamt by Hemingway as he was riding a wounded Elephant. Haha, my vision exactly Thank You!
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Post by rockysmalls on Mar 5, 2019 11:28:28 GMT
Pure filtered, modulated, delayed analog/digital noise as the sound source. Not for the faint-hearted But if You happen to like aggresive electro heheh! just needs genesis p. orridge shouting “DISCIPLINE!” over the top.
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Post by spacedog on Mar 5, 2019 12:54:51 GMT
Pure filtered, modulated, delayed analog/digital noise as the sound source. Not for the faint-hearted Help, I'm being chased by a horde of Zombies through a dark subway tunnel while more and more fully lit trains zip past from all directions causing me to jump left and right as if I was a bull fighter in a nightmare dreamt by Hemingway as he was riding a wounded Elephant. In other words, I love it! Help, I'm being pursued by a German living in Australia who's inhabiting my dream of Zombie elephants riding Hemingway on the London Tube... Yes, I like it too, cool sounds There's lots of great ideas coming out at the moment, I must get my patching trousers on tonight. Last night I had very little time, so I grabbed my tiny Bastl Kastle and played with it on the sofa for an hour. Strangely, that too had the feel of Zombie elephants and Hemingway... or maybe that was the alcohol...? I was really heartened to read arti say that he discovered something about the NOISE module as a result of the challenge, that's a really great outcome to go with the fun of experimentation and what these challenges embody for me. I know that not everyone likes the thought of doing something structured, sometimes it really is a great way to scaffold the learning.
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Post by admin on Mar 5, 2019 22:17:45 GMT
This is my entry for the 9th AE Modular patch challenge. This was about using the noise module as the main sound and CV source.
First I'm using a slow triangle LFO to fade unfiltered noise in and out using a VCA. Then I'm using the inverse of the same LFO to change the WASP filter cutoff frequency to get a more resonant noise sweep. A third voice has the noise signal going through a rather snappy envelope which then goes through the delay for the ticking of the clock. The 4th voice is just a VCO being controlled by the SEQ16 to add a mysterious background soundtrack. This is the only part that has nothing to do with the noise module at all. The 5th part is another VCO which gets its CV from the S&H module which is fed by the noise and gets a clock from the SEQ16. Another envelope makes this snappy so we get completely random melody, whistles and bells. The whole mix going through the MultiFX unit to add space and more delay. Especially the random melody gets some nice delay effects from the MultiFX reverb.
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Post by arti on Mar 6, 2019 18:47:16 GMT
admin You've showed more tamed, civilised side of noise. Meditative even. Great!
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Post by thetechnobear on Mar 9, 2019 17:20:24 GMT
this week I decided to do something a bit different, rather than focus on the end goal of some music... I thought Id setup up the rack as a 'noise workbench', and then use this to explore how noise can be shaped, and then used with various resonators. this video is a kind of exploration of that process. there are 3 short parts... part 1: AE modular , shaping/filtering AE noise, then passing it to the MultiFX as a kind of resonator part 2: AE modular , shaping/filtering AE noise, then passing it to Mutable Instruments Elements (Eurorack) part 3: AE modular , shaping/filtering AE noise, then passing it to Mutable Instruments Rings (Eurorack) There is a lot of details on the 'patch' in the youtube notes, but what I like about the patch, was by having HP, LP , BP all feeding into a mixer (4ATT/MIX) , I could alter the balance easily (I like that Nyle has this 'built in'), I also really found it useful having an envelope modulating the cutoff of the filter. some things that didn't make the video (only so much time ) , using alternative noise sources : I actually had the 3vcswitch feeding the filters, so I could switch in digital noise, or noise from the Koma Field Kit radio, this is interesting. modulation - lfos and or s&h on : filters, noise rate, and also resonators parameters can really help bring sounds to life (they are less 'repetitive') anyway, this was a lot of fun, and before I break it down, I'll probably create some samples to use in future tracks. another thing, that strikes me more and more, is easy it is to get AE modular interacting with the Eurorack, this is important to me, since Eurorack can get expensive, and so using AE modular as a equal partner, collaborating in patches, is an important part of my setup. it made me think about the direction for my AE modular more, I think Id like the following (some of which don't exist yet robertlanger ) - another 4IO - snappier envelopes (new 2env, and 2vca will do this I believe) - a shorter delay, with v/oct input (reversed) and with feedback send/return - for karplus strong - multi band filter or eq (?) to use for filtering resonant body - noise, more colours
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Post by NightMachines on Mar 11, 2019 11:36:14 GMT
Wow! Amazing stuff, guys! Loving the different approaches and your results Only had a short amount of time today unfortunately, so here's my quick last-minute entry: I also went the resonator and Karplus-Strong route and used a subdivided digital NOISE output as a random clock source with feedback via a S&H back to the NOISE CV input. More info in the video description. Patch Notes from the video description: The AE Modular NOISE module has analog and digital noise outputs. I turned the NOISE frequency down and divided the digital output with the DIVIDER module, to get a random clock, feeding into a S&H trigger input with analog noise as an input. The S&H output feeds back to the NOISE's frequency CV input, so that the clock speed subtly changes. I then run the analog noise output through all three of my filters, the LOPAG and the DELAY and MULTIFX, with CV modulation coming from various sources, like the SEQ16, STEP10 and the LOGIC module, all of which receive divided digital noise as clock. The filters are on the brink of self-oscillation, making them resonant, producing pinging sounds. I control the amplitude of four different sound sources with my fingers on my DIY touch sensor. The flickering comes form the fading LED strip above the setup, which shines its PWMed LEDs onto a photoresistor, affecting the overall mix amplitude on a second channel. This is also where the "hum" noise comes from, it's the LED PWN frequencies acting as an oscillator.
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Post by arti on Mar 11, 2019 11:58:48 GMT
thetechnobear - the results with elements resonator are fabulous! NightMachines - some great granular textures! It's realy encouraging and inspiring to hear so much variety coming from noise as a base. So many ideas to try and explore!
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Post by thetechnobear on Mar 11, 2019 12:22:44 GMT
yeah, this was a fun challenge, yielded a really wide pallet of sounds from everyone - great fun to listen to them all ! one thing, nice thing I learnt from this challenge, was that the digital noise thru a filter can sound really nice, it seemed to have a darker tone than the analog noise. (unfortunately I didn't feature it, because its quieter too, and I'd have had to mess about with gain settings to allow comparison) arti yeah, elements is a beautiful.... I love it - I fell in love with rings and elements when I first 'ported' them to Axoloti. Rings, I admit, I kind of screwed up , I was filming the 'demo' part in one shot, and resonators can take a while to find a sweet spot, and due to rushing I completely missed it during filming ... (e.g. pitching it down, it sounds much better!) (I could have just 'cheated' and put it in "sympathetic string" mode, then anything you put thru in sounds beautiful, but the noise input kind of vanishes ) the other great thing is, mutable made the code open source, so anyone with a computer can play with them using VCVrack
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Post by admin on Mar 11, 2019 12:36:35 GMT
Wow it really pays off to stay up late on Monday night! I really loved this challenge and enjoyed all the entries. Now I have to read up on Karplus Strong and need to experiment with how to achieve this with my AE by following NightMachines instructions. Thanks to the weekly patch challenges and my own ambitions to send out a tutorial video every week, I am now spending almost all weekend patching, experimenting and filming which is the most I have spent with making music than ever before in my life and I love it! It wasn't the guitar, it's not the piano, not the Ukulele (although that's not completely discounted yet) .. it's a little grey box with lots of knobs that squeaks (as my family likes to describe my compositions). And it's this community here in the forum that is supportive and challenging and inspiring, I'm really glad you are all here!
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Post by sycophante on Mar 11, 2019 22:24:57 GMT
So here is mine I could have worked a bit more on it since it was patched as it is last monday, but then I got caught in netflix and Borderlands 2 :/ I'm still a bit proud of it cause I'm used to noodling not finishing, so the challende is a great help! Analog and Digital noise are sent in two different env+vca+vcf. analog does the snare and digital the kick. Env are trigged buy triq164. Track 3 from triq164 also serves as clock for the sequencer though didn't think to play with it while recording.
Both filters frequencies are controlled buy the sequencer, and svfilter frequency is tweaked (a bit too much) by my own very crazy hand.
Kick goes through a delay and the whole thing through spring reverb wich does the ending larsen (feedback then wet at maximum).
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Post by arti on Mar 12, 2019 20:09:05 GMT
sycophante, it's simple but effective, I like the otherworldy atmosphere!
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Post by thetechnobear on Mar 12, 2019 21:24:03 GMT
quick jam with the AE patch, and eurorack stuff in the above video... playing the Virus over the top. definitely, need to get better at pattern and part switching - felt like i was juggling so many balls... so I didn't really get the variations I wanted, I could have multi-tracked it, but I specifically want to practice this kind of live jam/improv type format, where i record in one take... so its warts n' all
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Post by arti on Mar 13, 2019 0:44:02 GMT
need to get better at pattern and part switching - felt like i was juggling so many balls... so I didn't really get the variations I wanted, I could have multi-tracked it, but I specifically want to practice this kind of live jam/improv type format, where i record in one take that's my favourite way of playing my synths - live in one take. Of course several takes are often needed to record everything as I want, if the juggling went wrong but it is the most rewarding experience, very immersive, it gives intense feeling of beeing the part of the music, so I pull for You thetechnobear!
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Post by admin on Mar 13, 2019 5:22:15 GMT
quick jam with the AE patch, and eurorack stuff in the above video... playing the Virus over the top. I really like this! And yes I also try to do everything live with "one take" it takes me away from the computer that I use 12 hours a day for my work so it's much more rewarding than having to do a lot of post processing in a DAW. It's also good practice for maybe sometime performing for a live audience.
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Post by thetechnobear on Mar 13, 2019 10:51:02 GMT
thanks admin , arti - yeah, I think your right, its a great thing to practice... the thing I need to experiment more with is the balance of 'programming' vs live playing - how much do i want of each? at one end , I can do looping, where everything is played live, and then 'replayed', the downside, is it takes quite a while to build up a track, and all the steps are not interesting to the listener, also getting structure is a very much a skill to learn the upside, is its very dynamic. at the other end, I pre-program patterns, and get a sequencer to chain them... then play various parts over the top, so the sequences become like a backing track (almost) the downside being, as you head to this end, things become more fixed in structure (which you need to 'rehearse in advance' so you stay in time with it ) on the upside, automating some things, leaves space for others e.g. you have more time, to focus, to be able to concentrate on the part your playing , or go tweaks some knobs or whatever... so we can then do things in between, like here, where I had some patterns, but activated them manually (rather than sequence them) , and you could also mix in looping on top. this seems great, but to do whilst being aware, and reacting too the other tracks, gets pretty complex. the more I try this, the more respect I have for artists that do this kind of performance (live looping, or pre-programmed seq) , not only the skills to play the instruments, but their awareness of what's going on with all the layers, and how time is moving on(*) (*) time : this is the difference for me, to when Im not recording, and just jamming on other layers Ive built... it doesn't matter if I keep with a particular pattern/sequence to long if there are no listeners, as Im enjoying myself playing over the top
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