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Post by Gaëtan on Apr 24, 2019 6:06:10 GMT
Hi everyone,
I have a couple of questions about AE Modular :
1) How does it behave with regards to multing V/o CV ? In euro you would use a buffered mult to avoid voltage drop, which AE doesn't have.
2) Is there currently any way of doing polarization (i.e inversion/attenuversion) ? I couldn't find that in the modules
3) Is there any built-in clock source, or do I need to sacrifice an LFO if I don't have a MIDI device connected ? 4) What does the CV input do on the delay ? 4) When can we expect the quantizer and slew modules ? Those are some REALLY useful modules (especially the slew)
Thanks !
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Post by admin on Apr 24, 2019 11:10:14 GMT
Hi everyone, I have a couple of questions about AE Modular : 1) How does it behave with regards to multing V/o CV ? In euro you would use a buffered mult to avoid voltage drop, which AE doesn't have.
2) Is there currently any way of doing polarization (i.e inversion/attenuversion) ? I couldn't find that in the modules
3) Is there any built-in clock source, or do I need to sacrifice an LFO if I don't have a MIDI device connected ? 4) What does the CV input do on the delay ? 4) When can we expect the quantizer and slew modules ? Those are some REALLY useful modules (especially the slew) Thanks !
I'll try to answer all of these questions but I just want to point out that Robert is a one man company and since the last Superbooth in 2018 he has released 10 new modules and I'm sure there's be more presented at this year's 'booth. He has also redesigned the patch points and lately even found new patch cables. All while trying to get ever more systems out of the door. So progress may seem slow, especially compared to the immense wish list that heads this thread, but I think that in fact it is a pretty awesome output. About inversion/polarisation ... since all signals in AE are between 0-5V I'm not sure how inversion or polarisation could work. It's not really like Eurorack where you can have signals between -12V and +12V. I've used the AE mults alot and so far I haven't noticed a voltage drop, but maybe there are people here that have bigger racks and they may have noticed this? There is no built-in clock source, you either use a MIDI clock or "sacrifice" an LFO. Remember that you can use one of the new envelopes as an LFO also, as they can re-trigger. In regards to the CV input on the Delay ... I just tried this and I have still no idea what it does ... it does something, but it's not really affecting the delay time much, but I've just put in a random CV from sample and hold and that creates some interesting effects. |
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Post by Gaëtan on Apr 24, 2019 11:33:57 GMT
Thanks ! I'll try to answer all of these questions but I just want to point out that Robert is a one man company and since the last Superbooth in 2018 he has released 10 new modules and I'm sure there's be more presented at this year's 'booth. He has also redesigned the patch points and lately even found new patch cables. All while trying to get ever more systems out of the door. So progress may seem slow, especially compared to the immense wish list that heads this thread, but I think that in fact it is a pretty awesome output. Oh but I think so too, no complaint there, I'm just curious. About inversion/polarisation ... since all signals in AE are between 0-5V I'm not sure how inversion or polarisation could work. It's not really like Eurorack where you can have signals between -12V and +12V. Yes I'm wondering too. I asked because being able to invert an LFO or an envelope is quite useful. In these cases, since the signal normally covers the whole 0-5V range, it would be reasonable to take 2.5V as the symmetry axis. I notice that the logic module actually does have an inverter, but I assume it is meant for gates. |
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Post by admin on Apr 24, 2019 11:55:15 GMT
Oh but I think so too, no complaint there, I'm just curious. Yeah, trust me, no one wants the Quantizer more than I do ... I have a lousy musical ear and would love to just switch on auto tune for my creations  Yes I'm wondering too. I asked because being able to invert an LFO or an envelope is quite useful. In these cases, since the signal normally covers the whole 0-5V range, it would be reasonable to take 2.5V as the symmetry axis. I notice that the logic module actually does have an inverter, but I assume it is meant for gates. The 2ATT/CV module also has an inverse output .. and I have used it to reverse an LFO to create stereo panning .. see this video: |
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Post by spacedog on Apr 24, 2019 12:24:07 GMT
Oh but I think so too, no complaint there, I'm just curious. Yeah, trust me, no one wants the Quantizer more than I do ... I have a lousy musical ear and would love to just switch on auto tune for my creations Yes I'm wondering too. I asked because being able to invert an LFO or an envelope is quite useful. In these cases, since the signal normally covers the whole 0-5V range, it would be reasonable to take 2.5V as the symmetry axis. I notice that the logic module actually does have an inverter, but I assume it is meant for gates. The 2ATT/CV module also has an inverse output .. and I have used it to reverse an LFO to create stereo panning .. see this video: Thanks, admin ,you just answered a few things at once, including whether I was going mad or not. I'll tackle the madness bit first... I was totally convinced that the 2ATT/CV had an inverter so I checked the product page... and it wasn't there. I got the chance to check my own module and there it is, just as I remembered. Next, there was the earlier question about VC Mixing and I remembered "someone" had tried panning, which is just mixing across two audio signals, so I thought that technique might also work for CVs. Hunting for these things in the forum can be difficult now as there is so much there. Finally, I had foolishly thought that the CV on the DELAY affected delay time, now I will have to check again. I seem to remember that when I modulated it with an LFO I got that stretchy sound. Mmmm, I shall play later and hear what I get. I completely agree that robertlanger is doing an amazing job and I was pleased to see a range of weeks now for delivery. A spot of expectation management is a good thing and it stops people getting antsy. When I bought my two-rack starter I was convinced that it had gone missing. I was completely happy when Robert said that it would still be a couple of weeks until it shipped. The second time I was much more relaxed, plus I knew that I would get the DHL email. All of this success does mean that I will have to wait longer for my next batch of modules, of course One point that I noticed was when I connected the SEQ16 to the OSC, it did pull the oscillator down by about half a semi-tone, so I had to re-tune the oscillator back up. It was stable, but I found connecting any modulating source to the CV of the OSC did pull it down. Same with the 2OSC (original flavour) when I checked it. I noticed it first when I was creating an octave switch using the 2ATT/CV and the 3VCSWITCH and then tested it with other inputs to the CV. I'm not sure if this is old news or if something is happening with my racks. I can get around it, but it means that live patching into the CV is a problem. |
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Post by admin on Apr 24, 2019 12:42:16 GMT
Finally, I had foolishly thought that the CV on the DELAY affected delay time, now I will have to check again. I seem to remember that when I modulated it with an LFO I got that stretchy sound. Mmmm, I shall play later and hear what I get. I think it does affect the delay time, but not in the same way or the same strength as the encoder. At least not on my module or at least not when I tried it today. But I tried it with the +5V from the 2ATT/CV expecting it to work just as the knob would but it didn't. And then I just threw random voltages from the Noise+S&H combo at it and that was interesting so I was just happy with that  |
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Post by Gaëtan on Apr 24, 2019 13:29:17 GMT
I'll tackle the madness bit first... I was totally convinced that the 2ATT/CV had an inverter so I checked the product page... and it wasn't there. I got the chance to check my own module and there it is, just as I remembered. Ah, that explains, thanks |
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Post by robertlanger on Apr 30, 2019 8:30:07 GMT
Hi guys,
a bit late - my 3 cents to the questions:
1) How does it behave with regards to multing V/o CV ? In euro you would use a buffered mult to avoid voltage drop, which AE doesn't have.
-> THe MULTs available on several AE modules are not buffered; up to now I have not heard about a problem with voltage drops by multiples. But if this should be an issue, it's a snap to make a buffered mult :-)
2) Is there currently any way of doing polarization (i.e inversion/attenuversion) ? I couldn't find that in the modules
-> As written before, the ATT/CV has also inverted outputs.
3) Is there any built-in clock source, or do I need to sacrifice an LFO if I don't have a MIDI device connected ?
-> At the moment an LFO is the recommended clock source, although on my ideas list is a real master clock module with precise BPM setting, some storages/presets, tap function... IMO very useful for live playing (what was initially not the goal with AE modular but it develops more and more in this direction)
4) What does the CV input do on the delay ?
-> the CV input on the delay changes the delay time, so you can get chorus-like effects.
4) When can we expect the quantizer and slew modules ? Those are some REALLY useful modules (especially the slew)
-> A slew limiter is already developed but still in the drawer (why? please don't ask...) I have to put it out now! A quantizer was also developed quite far, but in the meantime I have learned some improvements I want to add to this, plus it will be extended from initially 2 channels to 4. A high priority module indeed! Both modules will be available second half of this year.
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