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Post by pt3r on Sept 8, 2021 7:21:09 GMT
What modules do you have in your rack that are not used that often? Perhaps because you don't really see how to use them in a meaningful way or because they don't seem to do a lot for you?
Personally, I have two that come to mind; WAVEFOLDER and LOPAG. I guess I'm just not really understanding well enough how they work to use them properly. I have been pouring over the module wiki and watched some video deoms but no luck so far. Who can shine their light on these 2 modules?
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Post by NightMachines on Sept 8, 2021 7:28:26 GMT
The Wavefolder adds nice crunch to the sound. You can simply use it to amplify a signal mildly too. Take a “dull” wave, like a triangle or a LPF output and add harmonics to it by folding it. Use CV and/or a VCA to alter the sound. If you don’t like crunchy sounds though, the Wavefolder might not be for you  LOPAG: it’s mostly a percussion module for woody/plucky sounds. Send a square wave into it and trigger it. I haven’t used it for anything else really, but I like the sound. Of course you should send it through effects like any other module (eg the Wavefolder  ). ———— moved the thread to AE Modular Talk |
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Post by pt3r on Sept 8, 2021 8:40:41 GMT
Thank you for your insight, I did a few experiments using your pointers and I can hear more clearly how these sounds might be useful.
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Post by maydonpoliris on Sept 8, 2021 9:11:48 GMT
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Post by pt3r on Sept 8, 2021 9:24:37 GMT
What an amazing track, there is still so much music to discover in these threads.
maydonpoliris Try NOISE or an ALGODRONE through S&H through the quantizer and you have an excellent melody generator for those ambient tracks, put an attenuator between s&h and your QUANTIZER to limit the range of the generated notes. |
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Post by maydonpoliris on Sept 8, 2021 10:22:05 GMT
What an amazing track, there is still so much music to discover in these threads.
maydonpoliris Try NOISE or an ALGODRONE through S&H through the quantizer and you have an excellent melody generator for those ambient tracks, put an attenuator between s&h and your QUANTIZER to limit the range of the generated notes. Looking forward to trying this out. Much appreciated thankyou. There is an incredible music journey to be had in this forum. |
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Post by funbun on Sept 8, 2021 13:13:45 GMT
While use the 3CV switch, I don't use it anywhere near as extensively as I want.
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Post by NightMachines on Sept 8, 2021 13:17:44 GMT
Mines the 2S&H, have hardly touched it. I know there are probably a thousand uses for it. just haven't got there. The typical use case with a noise signal to generate triggered random voltages can result in something quite strong and obvious (the usual S&H random melodies, etc.). You can however also subtly mix the S&H output with other CV, e.g. a normal envelope signal controlling a filter’s cutoff frequency. This way you get a kind “drifting” effect, with each envelope modulation being slightly different. When you route the S&H output through a SLEW module, you can even smooth the hard voltage jumps that occur when the S&H is triggered, creating smoothly floating random voltages. Another idea would be to sample a saw or triangle LFO, which results in an arpeggio CV sequence. Make sure to reset the LFO after a certain amount of S&H triggers to keep the results consistent. Then mix the arpeggio CV with a second, slower random S&H signal, using a POLAMIX. This way you can randomly transpose that arpeggio or even manually offset or invert it. Run the arpeggio CV sequence through a quantizer for more musical results, as already suggested by pt3r. |
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Post by maydonpoliris on Sept 8, 2021 19:57:29 GMT
Thanks NightMachines for all these tips. I especially like that transpose idea. Looks like I'm going to have some focused fun this weekend. |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Sept 8, 2021 21:11:08 GMT
Not really underrated as it is in all racks, but the 2ENV is really INCREDIBLE. I'm on holiday right now, with a small 1 row with me, and I have 2 x 2Env modules to deal with both classic env stuff and all modulation. This module is not to be underestimated as slow modulation source! The added benefit over the 2LFO is that you have CV control over the decay and attack (so basically both RATE and SHAPE!).
Had a lot of fun using an as slow as possible looped envelope, through 2ATT/CV, to change the attack & decay of multiple other envelopes. Also using the 4Vca in DC mode to let them modulate eachother even further. Throw in An RBSS and you have endless modulation!
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Post by pt3r on Sept 9, 2021 5:12:48 GMT
Oh yes 2ENV is on of my absolute goto bread & butter modules this together with 2VCA allows you to create synth voices that can produce pretty wild stuff ranging from simple triangle/saw to FM/AM modulated madness and. A rack full of 2ENV and 2VCA is basically a synth, it offers you lots of modulation and sequencing possibilities, although not very straightforward to patch.
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Post by slowscape on Sept 21, 2021 18:30:01 GMT
I've talked about this module multiple times, but I'm going to say the MS20 is totally underappreciated! I mostly use it as an analog sine wave osc (at resonance). It's got a cool quality as a filter as well, but it feels super unstable. Some frequencies come out really loud and other not so loud, if I could better tame that, I may want to pick up another!
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Post by pt3r on Sept 21, 2021 20:30:23 GMT
I've talked about this module multiple times, but I'm going to say the MS20 is totally underappreciated! I mostly use it as an analog sine wave osc (at resonance). It's got a cool quality as a filter as well, but it feels super unstable. Some frequencies come out really loud and other not so loud, if I could better tame that, I may want to pick up another! I feel you on that one, so far most use of my MS20 has been as a sine wave generator  not as a filter. |
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Post by moruial on Sept 21, 2021 21:06:01 GMT
Same here, mostly used for the Sine Wave. I do thinbk I've used it as a filter for the Aether Waves 3, if I recall correctely.
An underappreciated modul for me would be the Slew/Edge, I don't really know how to use this thing... :/
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Post by solipsistnation on Sept 21, 2021 22:18:50 GMT
Same here, mostly used for the Sine Wave. I do thinbk I've used it as a filter for the Aether Waves 3, if I recall correctely.
An underappreciated modul for me would be the Slew/Edge, I don't really know how to use this thing... :/
Oh man. Slew/Edge is the best. Basically stick it between a thing providing discrete CV values (like sequencer notes or a square wave LFO or a sample&hold output) and the thing receiving that CV. It'll take those changes and make them sloppy-- so if you had it set to slew on upward transitions and played, say, a low C and then a high C, it would play the first note clean and then sort of swoop up to the second note. It's like the portamento switch on a non-modular, except way more configurable. If you want acidy basslines, you use slew/edge. I find it works best with a relatively short slew time (...so it actually reaches the note) but you could do, for example, a sort of THX-length swoop or use it on anything that takes CV. I like to do: SEQ16 -> Quantizer -> Slew/Edge -> VCO for solid acidy gurgles. You could also use the accent out of a SEQ16 or a TRIQ164 output to trigger the slew for some steps. Or all kinds of fun stuff with the up/down-detection pulse outputs if you want to get fancy. But just the basic portamento swoop is pretty fun. I use it constantly. |
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Post by pt3r on Sept 22, 2021 5:57:11 GMT
yes it basically makes transitions between voltages.
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Post by pol on Sept 22, 2021 16:17:20 GMT
Not sure this fits entirely within this thread, but a module I didn't realise how much I used is the 4ATTMIX; I noticed as I recently bought the 4 ATTMIX Fader and things have mostly switched to that module! Now I usually keep the CV mixing on the non-fader one, and so it has encouraged me to start doing more of that....
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