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Post by pol on Aug 27, 2021 20:32:38 GMT
Just wanted to give this module a shout out as I have found it so useful. Yes, it is just the 4ATTMIX module but with faders instead of knobs, but being 2U wide just makes it a bit more spacious, and faders are easier to adjust, especially if trying to get back to a set position. On the latter I have even put a little bit of tape across so I don't raise the relevant level too high, can't do that with a knob!
If you haven't got a 4ATTMIx module then I would recommend buying this one first, especially if you perform with your synth live, whether video or on stage. I was going to buy my 2nd one (as it is often used to sub mix the oscillators before the filters and also wanted to combine sounds before the final output. As used on my submission for AEtherwave Vol 3!
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Post by maydonpoliris on Aug 27, 2021 21:05:20 GMT
I like the tape idea.
Have the knob version but after getting the dronx agree that faders would be better.
Good tip about premixing before filters, I could use the knob version for setting up and get the fader version for live.
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 28, 2021 8:41:42 GMT
I also got a second one, it's a fantastic module! You can also use it to have nice fader control for a parameter: send 5V in, and send the individual output to something like a filter cutoff, decay,.. now you can play super-fast and precise with that parameter using the fader! (EG for making cool, changing hihatts)
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Post by moruial on Aug 28, 2021 9:28:37 GMT
I do have one also, but don't use it much at the moment to be honest.My mixing desk is 32 In so I have quiet enough to use it as as simple "fade in/fade out" tool, but I've never thought about using it another way. I'll try thank, thanks for the tips!
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Post by oneup on Aug 30, 2021 17:50:18 GMT
Can this module invert signals? The manual from the wiki says: for dc coupled signals there is a range from 0 to 5 v. So all under 2,5v would invert as an example a lfo. Any experiences? Thanks!
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Post by pol on Aug 30, 2021 19:27:41 GMT
Can this module invert signals? The manual from the wiki says: for dc coupled signals there is a range from 0 to 5 v. So all under 2,5v would invert as an example a lfo. Any experiences? Thanks! Nope, best module for this is the 2CVTool.... The Feature you refer to on this module can help with audio quality etc. It isn't an inverter. I believe (one of the DIYers would be better for this) that all signals in the AE are 0 to 5V, but do not not "rotate" around 2.5V - with the obvious exception of an LFO where it's centre frequency could be set at 2.5V but oscillates around that. Some modules can be adjusted so only produce a 0-2.5V range (e.g. SEQ16) to enable finer pitch control, or less need for attenuation. |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 30, 2021 20:21:15 GMT
Indeed, the 4ATT does not invert, only attenuate.
As far as I noticed, all oscillators in AE are roughly centered around 2.5V. So the normal mode of the attenuators would attenuate this oscillators around 2.5V (eg a square wave from 0-5V could be attenuated to one from 2-3V). However, most CV signals (envelopes, LFOs) are NOT centered around 2.5V, but raise from 0V to a higher value (often around 4V). This causes the start of the CV change to be 'no change' (0V) and then go up.
Indeed, inverting makes less sense in AE as there are no negative voltages: you cannot give a 'real' negative CV signal anyway. However, inverting is still useful when you want eg your envelope to always 'be high' and then go down when it is triggered. This would basically cause the same behavior as negative voltage signals, if tweaked correctly with the module knobs.
Conclusion: i really really need the 2CVTool
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Post by oneup on Aug 30, 2021 20:46:40 GMT
Indeed, the 4ATT does not invert, only attenuate. As far as I noticed, all oscillators in AE are roughly centered around 2.5V. So the normal mode of the attenuators would attenuate this oscillators around 2.5V (eg a square wave from 0-5V could be attenuated to one from 2-3V). However, most CV signals (envelopes, LFOs) are NOT centered around 2.5V, but raise from 0V to a higher value (often around 4V). This causes the start of the CV change to be 'no change' (0V) and then go up. Indeed, inverting makes less sense in AE as there are no negative voltages: you cannot give a 'real' negative CV signal anyway. However, inverting is still useful when you want eg your envelope to always 'be high' and then go down when it is triggered. This would basically cause the same behavior as negative voltage signals, if tweaked correctly with the module knobs. Conclusion: i really really need the 2CVTool Thanks for your Answers! I think You could also use the Polamix for that. Still dreaming for an envelope follower with Gate Outputs to trigger the „inverted envelope“. Would be awesome to sidechain an incoming Audio Signal this way. |
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