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Post by pol on Aug 15, 2021 7:53:42 GMT
Having recently updated the Wiki page on this module, it made me want to go fiddle with it as I had actually forgotten it had 4 tracks in the sequencer! A few things occurred which I thought may be worth sharing:- It can be, in effect, a divider, as there is one master clock and 4 tracks you can pretty much do want you want with up to 16 steps long; this will be the base of a few AE only pieces going forward I think.... 1 track do a "pulse" (maybe Kick drum), one triggering a seq16 module and the other 2 could be anything! Just in case you don't know this trick; use a sequencer trigger to an Envelope module and you have some sort of controllable LFO - I spend quite a bit of time messing with this,  Another thing I enjoy fiddling with is using the actual trigger pulse as a CV, through an attenuator like the 2ATT/CV or Polamix - only just got the latter module and mixing the trigger with other CVs is a whole other level of fun,  A trick you can do with most of the AE sequencers is using the individual step outs, again really need an attenuator; they can be accents on a beat, open or close the filter on that step, trigger an envelope to do that more slowly and so on. Anyway, suffice to say I'm really gonna spend a lot more time with my AE in the future, and hopefully some bits will become actual pieces of music.... |
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Post by tIB on Aug 15, 2021 11:11:00 GMT
It does clock multiplication pretty well too.
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Post by pol on Aug 15, 2021 16:42:15 GMT
It does clock multiplication pretty well too. Indeed! |
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Post by jan musi on Aug 15, 2021 16:59:14 GMT
It's also fun with a really fast clock input, for audio filtering and generation.
With an audio-rate clock input, it becomes an audio filter/effecter. The example below sounds like a crunchy digital-ish waveshaper.
Waveshaper example (tested):
VCO --> TRIQ164 CLK
TRIQ164 OUT (any) --> ENV/ADSR GATE
ENV/ADSR OUT --> really crunchy audio
Selecting every step will preserve the pitch.
Selecting every odd step will shift the pitch down one octave.
Selecting weird sequences is how this gets fun - I'm a fan of [1,2,3,5,6,9,10,11,13,14].
With a super-audio-rate clock input, I think it could become an audio generator like a wavetable. The idea is that it could control the steps/slices of a waveform, like any super-audio-rate-clocked sequencer like SEQ8 or SEQ16, except the TRIQ164 would need to be complemented by something like a PCM DAC. Maybe convert the pulses to gates (with a module like 2S&H) and add output smoothing (with a module like SLEW, which I don't have, if it can effectively slew PCM)? Is there anything in AEM that outputs a >20kHz frequency for the super-audio-rate clock source? If the sequence is too short, it could be chained with other channels via a switch like 3VCSWITCH.
Wavetable idea:
>20kHz frequency --> TRIQ164 CLK
(Sequence 1 has all steps selected)
TRIQ164 OUT 1 --> 2S&H TRIG 1
(Sequence 2 & 3 are the custom PCM wavetable)
TRIQ164 OUT 2 --> 3VCSWITCH 1A
TRIQ164 OUT 3 --> 3VCSWITCH 1B
(Sequence 4 has only one step selected)
TRIQ164 OUT 4 --> MM-DIV CLK
(MM-DIV is on BINARY mode)
MM-DIV 1--> 3VCSWITCH GATE
3VCSWITCH IO1 --> 2S&H IN 1
2S&H OUT 1 --> SLEW input
SLEW output --> I really want to hear what this sounds like...
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Post by pol on Aug 16, 2021 19:16:33 GMT
It's also fun with a really fast clock input, for audio filtering and generation. With an audio-rate clock input, it becomes an audio filter/effecter. The example below sounds like a crunchy digital-ish waveshaper. Waveshaper example (tested): VCO --> TRIQ164 CLK TRIQ164 OUT (any) --> ENV/ADSR GATE ENV/ADSR OUT --> really crunchy audio Selecting every step will preserve the pitch. Selecting every odd step will shift the pitch down one octave. Selecting weird sequences is how this gets fun - I'm a fan of [1,2,3,5,6,9,10,11,13,14]. With a super-audio-rate clock input, I think it could become an audio generator like a wavetable. The idea is that it could control the steps/slices of a waveform, like any super-audio-rate-clocked sequencer like SEQ8 or SEQ16, except the TRIQ164 would need to be complemented by something like a PCM DAC. Maybe convert the pulses to gates (with a module like 2S&H) and add output smoothing (with a module like SLEW, which I don't have, if it can effectively slew PCM)? Is there anything in AEM that outputs a >20kHz frequency for the super-audio-rate clock source? If the sequence is too short, it could be chained with other channels via a switch like 3VCSWITCH. Wavetable idea: >20kHz frequency --> TRIQ164 CLK (Sequence 1 has all steps selected) TRIQ164 OUT 1 --> 2S&H TRIG 1 (Sequence 2 & 3 are the custom PCM wavetable) TRIQ164 OUT 2 --> 3VCSWITCH 1A TRIQ164 OUT 3 --> 3VCSWITCH 1B (Sequence 4 has only one step selected) TRIQ164 OUT 4 --> MM-DIV CLK (MM-DIV is on BINARY mode) MM-DIV 1--> 3VCSWITCH GATE 3VCSWITCH IO1 --> 2S&H IN 1 2S&H OUT 1 --> SLEW input SLEW output --> I really want to hear what this sounds like... Great stuff, have to see if I can condense this for patch suggestions on the module's Wiki page! |
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Post by pt3r on Aug 17, 2021 15:44:27 GMT
Just in case you don't know this trick; use a sequencer trigger to an Envelope module and you have some sort of controllable LFO - I spend quite a bit of time messing with this, Or connect the end trigger on the 2ENV to it own gate and the 2ENV turns into an lfo with a possibility to range from left saw toot to right sawtooth and all possible triangle variations in between without even the need of a sequencer. |
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Post by pol on Aug 18, 2021 6:12:44 GMT
Just in case you don't know this trick; use a sequencer trigger to an Envelope module and you have some sort of controllable LFO - I spend quite a bit of time messing with this, Or connect the end trigger on the 2ENV to it own gate and the 2ENV turns into an lfo with a possibility to range from left saw toot to right sawtooth and all possible triangle variations in between without even the need of a sequencer. That is a good one too, already on the Wiki page! The advantage of the sequencer one is it is in sync with the rest of the noises,  |
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Post by pol on Aug 18, 2021 8:24:10 GMT
It's also fun with a really fast clock input, for audio filtering and generation. With an audio-rate clock input, it becomes an audio filter/effecter. The example below sounds like a crunchy digital-ish waveshaper. Waveshaper example (tested): VCO --> TRIQ164 CLK TRIQ164 OUT (any) --> ENV/ADSR GATE ENV/ADSR OUT --> really crunchy audio Selecting every step will preserve the pitch. Selecting every odd step will shift the pitch down one octave. Selecting weird sequences is how this gets fun - I'm a fan of [1,2,3,5,6,9,10,11,13,14]. With a super-audio-rate clock input, I think it could become an audio generator like a wavetable. The idea is that it could control the steps/slices of a waveform, like any super-audio-rate-clocked sequencer like SEQ8 or SEQ16, except the TRIQ164 would need to be complemented by something like a PCM DAC. Maybe convert the pulses to gates (with a module like 2S&H) and add output smoothing (with a module like SLEW, which I don't have, if it can effectively slew PCM)? Is there anything in AEM that outputs a >20kHz frequency for the super-audio-rate clock source? If the sequence is too short, it could be chained with other channels via a switch like 3VCSWITCH. Wavetable idea: >20kHz frequency --> TRIQ164 CLK (Sequence 1 has all steps selected) TRIQ164 OUT 1 --> 2S&H TRIG 1 (Sequence 2 & 3 are the custom PCM wavetable) TRIQ164 OUT 2 --> 3VCSWITCH 1A TRIQ164 OUT 3 --> 3VCSWITCH 1B (Sequence 4 has only one step selected) TRIQ164 OUT 4 --> MM-DIV CLK (MM-DIV is on BINARY mode) MM-DIV 1--> 3VCSWITCH GATE 3VCSWITCH IO1 --> 2S&H IN 1 2S&H OUT 1 --> SLEW input SLEW output --> I really want to hear what this sounds like... I chickened out, just mentioned the idea and a link to the thread! |
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Post by maydonpoliris on Aug 18, 2021 12:31:17 GMT
This thread has opened some things up for me as far as experimenting.
I started a patch using an example of most of the above and it's cool to see all of the lights on the triq,seq16/8,Envs, 2att working together even before any sound is heard.
Normally I head straight for a sound source I want to work with and then hook up the seq and triggers etc so it was fresh to do a patch with just the trig patterns in mind.
That 2att tip is really cool too.
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Post by jan musi on Aug 18, 2021 13:22:47 GMT
It's also fun with a really fast clock input, for audio filtering and generation. With an audio-rate clock input, it becomes an audio filter/effecter. The example below sounds like a crunchy digital-ish waveshaper. Waveshaper example (tested): VCO --> TRIQ164 CLK TRIQ164 OUT (any) --> ENV/ADSR GATE ENV/ADSR OUT --> really crunchy audio Selecting every step will preserve the pitch. Selecting every odd step will shift the pitch down one octave. Selecting weird sequences is how this gets fun - I'm a fan of [1,2,3,5,6,9,10,11,13,14]. With a super-audio-rate clock input, I think it could become an audio generator like a wavetable. The idea is that it could control the steps/slices of a waveform, like any super-audio-rate-clocked sequencer like SEQ8 or SEQ16, except the TRIQ164 would need to be complemented by something like a PCM DAC. Maybe convert the pulses to gates (with a module like 2S&H) and add output smoothing (with a module like SLEW, which I don't have, if it can effectively slew PCM)? Is there anything in AEM that outputs a >20kHz frequency for the super-audio-rate clock source? If the sequence is too short, it could be chained with other channels via a switch like 3VCSWITCH. Wavetable idea: >20kHz frequency --> TRIQ164 CLK (Sequence 1 has all steps selected) TRIQ164 OUT 1 --> 2S&H TRIG 1 (Sequence 2 & 3 are the custom PCM wavetable) TRIQ164 OUT 2 --> 3VCSWITCH 1A TRIQ164 OUT 3 --> 3VCSWITCH 1B (Sequence 4 has only one step selected) TRIQ164 OUT 4 --> MM-DIV CLK (MM-DIV is on BINARY mode) MM-DIV 1--> 3VCSWITCH GATE 3VCSWITCH IO1 --> 2S&H IN 1 2S&H OUT 1 --> SLEW input SLEW output --> I really want to hear what this sounds like... I chickened out, just mentioned the idea and a link to the thread! Haha, that works! Your patch suggestions are well written, and the "abused" part is very accurate. Thank you for wikiing! |
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