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Post by 101 on Feb 22, 2021 8:19:09 GMT
Looking for advice from anyone who has the quantizer module.
I'm guessing that the quantizer takes an input from say the Seq16 and outputs to an oscillator.
The quantizer snaps the incoming voltage to the nearest note on the scale, but is the final note out of the oscillator biased by its tuning?
Is this even an issue? As i'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a quantizer module.
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Post by danbowen on Feb 22, 2021 8:25:10 GMT
Looking for advice from anyone who has the quantizer module. I'm guessing that the quantizer takes an input from say the Seq16 and outputs to an oscillator. The quantizer snaps the incoming voltage to the nearest note on the scale, but is the final note out of the oscillator biased by its tuning? Is this even an issue? As i'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a quantizer module. Yes it is. |
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Post by Gaëtan on Feb 22, 2021 8:28:51 GMT
You will still need to tune your oscillators together (and with whatever other gear you use). The quantizer outputs discrete CV, but it doesn't send any "note" information, it's still just CV.
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Post by 101 on Feb 22, 2021 9:12:56 GMT
Thanks. Yes I meant CV not note. What I was concerned about was not having to tune the oscillator from underneath the board to use the quantizer sucessfully rather than fine pitch adjustments from the front pot.
Are overall impressions of the quantizer positive?
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Post by Gaëtan on Feb 22, 2021 10:24:05 GMT
Thanks. Yes I meant CV not note. What I was concerned about was not having to tune the oscillator from underneath the board to use the quantizer sucessfully rather than fine pitch adjustments from the front pot. Are overall impressions of the quantizer positive? Ah, I think you're confused, the trimpot at the back is not for tuning, it's for scaling. You shouldn't need to touch that unless your oscillator needs recalibrating. Normally, for each additional volt you send to the osc, it should sound an octave higher. It's called "tracking". If it doesn't (at least on 2-3 octaves), then it needs recalibrating. This has nothing to do with the Quantizer
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Post by MikMo on Feb 22, 2021 11:46:16 GMT
Basically, if the Oscillator is calibrated correct, a voltage of 1V should produce the note C0, and for each volt added to the voltage the oscillator will go up one octave.
I think the Quantizer assumes that this is the case, and then it generates voltages for the quantized "notes" based on that.
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Post by funbun on Feb 22, 2021 13:20:53 GMT
Honestly, if you're running the analog VCO, it ain't gonna play in tune. That's why I switched to digital oscillators.
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Post by 101 on Feb 22, 2021 13:49:49 GMT
Honestly, if you're running the analog VCO, it ain't gonna play in tune. That's why I switched to digital oscillators. Did you try your analogue vco's with the quantizer funbun? |
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Post by MaxRichardson97 on Feb 22, 2021 15:45:00 GMT
Honestly, if you're running the analog VCO, it ain't gonna play in tune. That's why I switched to digital oscillators. Gotta say - I really don't have a problem with the pitch on my VCO at all! Mine seems perfectly stable, but I guess the UK is always a pretty moderate climate? Once I've tuned it for the piece I'm set, don't have to touch it again at all. |
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Post by funbun on Feb 22, 2021 16:00:54 GMT
Honestly, if you're running the analog VCO, it ain't gonna play in tune. That's why I switched to digital oscillators. Did you try your analogue vco's with the quantizer funbun? Of course. I'm playing western-tempered music. I run everything through the quantizer. My analog VCOs don't hold in tune at all. I've pulled them out of my rig and replaced them with FMOSs and WAVETABLEs. (Wavetables should be coming in next week.) Understand I have a master's degree in music performance, so pitch stability, tracking and purity of the waveform is most important to me. I can only get that through digital oscillators. Even then I need a precision adder because the signal always picks up or looses small variations in voltage. In other words two oscillators, even digital, never agree on the same voltage. Again as a music performance major, I hear things that most people can't/don't. The quantizers doesn't make the oscillators play in tune. An analog oscillator is subject temperature and humidity changes. In the subtropical climate of the southeast United States, the thing will never play in tune. And, again, a quantizer is not a precision adder. |
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Post by funbun on Feb 22, 2021 16:05:37 GMT
Honestly, if you're running the analog VCO, it ain't gonna play in tune. That's why I switched to digital oscillators. Gotta say - I really don't have a problem with the pitch on my VCO at all! Mine seems perfectly stable, but I guess the UK is always a pretty moderate climate? Once I've tuned it for the piece I'm set, don't have to touch it again at all. Yeah, I live in the sub-tropical climate of the southeast USA. Those analog VCO will never play in tune or track straight for me. If it isn't as "easy" play/voice in tune as my saxophone, then I can't use it. |
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Post by 101 on Feb 22, 2021 16:16:18 GMT
Thanks all for the input. Can anyone actually recommend the Quantizer module?
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Post by solipsistnation on Feb 22, 2021 16:41:01 GMT
Yes, the quantizer module is pretty great. It's worth buying.
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Post by funbun on Feb 22, 2021 16:43:23 GMT
Of course. I use it all the time and in nearly every patch.
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Feb 23, 2021 11:21:57 GMT
I got it a few weeks ago and its really great. Perfect for generative stuff but also for more 'on the fly' improvisation. Linked with the SEQ you can actually change notes without landing in between all notes!  |
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Post by NightMachines on Feb 24, 2021 12:31:26 GMT
Yeah, it’s so cool that it has four quantizers built in. Like this your whole patch can stay in tune, no matter what you do |
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