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Post by moruial on Jan 22, 2021 10:56:29 GMT
As there are a lot of knowledgable people, and musicians around here, I can't think of a better place to ask. I'm looking for a reverb to add on my synth (HS-60) but I have no idea what is available and what might suit my needs. I'd like to have a nice lush reverb or maybe multy effect that can be versatile. I'm on a budget and don't want something too expensive, max 200€ I'd say. If possible not pedal, I have room and I live big things so a rack one is entierly possible. Pedal are a bit too small for me, but I can still consider some if you have some ideas. It can be a vintage thing from another dimension or century.
So, what do you guy would get if you where in my seat? keep in mind that I don't know much about lot of technical stuff, I'm just a newbi with music gear, and I don't have a clue where to look, and for what to look for.
Thanks in advance!
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Jan 22, 2021 15:16:34 GMT
I don't know a lot about rack gear, so can't help you there. But in the <200 euro reverb/delay category I know the Zoom multifx pedal is very popular among synth users. It has tons of different algorithms and is fairly cheap (100 euros, maybe less second hand).
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Post by admin on Jan 22, 2021 19:02:32 GMT
The Zoom MS70-CDR is incredible for the price. It has a ton of effects which can be chained, you can store presets and it’s generally really good.
Recently I have acquired the Korg Nutekt NTS-1 which is a fun, cheap, pocket size Synthesizer. It has incredibly lush reverbs and the tape delay is super fun. As it has an audio input, you can also use it as an effects processor for your AE.
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Post by 101 on Jan 22, 2021 22:03:12 GMT
Spend a bit more cash and get a secondhand Eventide. Some of the reverb and echo effects are so way out you could consider it a multi-effect, but much more subtle. Ideal for immersive ambient pieces too.
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Post by Jihel on Jan 23, 2021 8:35:38 GMT
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Post by moruial on Jan 23, 2021 10:19:04 GMT
keurslagerkurt I've thought about this one, and keep an eye on it, but I don't know why i think it's too little for my own taste. Not that it's not a powerful little pedal, but I' like to feel a things in my hands, and I'm not much attracted to pedal at the moment. Yet, i'll keep an eye out for this one.
admin Looks like a capable thing, but it look too much toy-ish for me. :/
101 Do you have any names or references of Eventide that can suite my needs? I've seen that some of them are very pricey but great gear!
Jihel Interesting one, what is your thought on this one? do you own it? |
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Post by Jihel on Jan 23, 2021 10:45:37 GMT
For the price, the Behringer FX2000 is great. Good reverbs, good delays, and many modulations fx. Of course, the sound is not as lush as an Eventide or a Lexicon, but at 1/10e of the price it's a very good and solid fx-rack. I have one since many years and I never had technical problem with it.
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Post by admin on Jan 23, 2021 10:50:00 GMT
keurslagerkurt I've thought about this one, and keep an eye on it, but I don't know why i think it's too little for my own taste. Not that it's not a powerful little pedal, but I' like to feel a things in my hands, and I'm not much attracted to pedal at the moment. Yet, i'll keep an eye out for this one. Just have another look at this video which shows off the power of the Zoom MS70-CDR. It is actually full metal and feels really solid and nicely heavy when you pick it up. Also this |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Jan 23, 2021 13:20:13 GMT
The Korg Monotron Delay is also a 'classic', but it's also kinda crazy and lofi, so maybe not the sound you are looking for. However due to it's popularity there are lots of mods for it, there is even a quite easy add-on pcb mod that makes it a patchable modular delay.
Around your price point there is also the Empress Tape Delay which looks pretty cool, but it's also a pedal.
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Post by danbowen on Jan 23, 2021 15:13:18 GMT
Korg nts1 is good. Loads of free custom effects available too. Plus you get a VA synth into the bargain. Coming up on eBay too now.
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Post by spacedog on Jan 23, 2021 20:57:04 GMT
You shouldn't write off pedals, you get a lot of bang for your buck (energy for your euro...?), and the build quality is very high these days. The only exception would be the Behringer pedals, which are remarkably good for the money, but the build is quite flimsy, which is OK if it's just sitting on a desk, but not for a foot coming down hard on it.
You can use multi-effects, and they're really good, but slightly limited in terms of the ability to set up crazy/interesting effect chains. That's where the "one pedal, one function" wins, as you can set up all kinds of crazy effects routings - that's how I work with them, and I do have quite a few.
I used a Digitech Polara for a long time, that has Lexicon algorithms in it and is still a really good all-rounder. I think it's out of production, but they turn up used. I coupled that to a TC Electronic T2 reverb, which has some great "ambient" models in it, and it worked really well in tandem with the Digitech. The T2 also has the advantage of being able to load the TC Electronic Hall of Fame patches that you can find on the website. I found that pairing did everything that I needed in reverb. The TC Electronic Hall of Fame is also a really good reverb.
In earlier days I did use rack-mounted reverbs (and other effects) and I had a lot of reverbs, including Alesis Quadraverb and Lexicon MPX500. The Lexicon moved into my gigging rack, coupled to a TC Electronic D-Two Delay. Both were used on all of the albums that I issued up to 2006. I can recommend both, but there may well be better value-for-money units now, I haven't kept up.
I am about to have a massive sale of all of my old gear, but it might take me a while to sort through it all.
Overall, I'd still point you towards pedals, they're easier to set up (and I do tweak mine live for added effect) and really very good these days, unless you're running Abbey Road Studios, and probably still even then  |
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Post by spacedog on Jan 30, 2021 14:04:22 GMT
Thinking about the reverb question, I spotted this today, although it is more of an "all in one" solution, it looks interesting for capturing those DAW-less jams with a bit more control than simply to stereo, and without the need for outboard mixing and effects sends/returns. So, if you're in the market for some live mixing, effects and recording (all in one box), this is quite interesting:
It appears to be a good/small/cheap(ish) way of recording 12 mono, or 6 stereo sources, routing through onboard effects, creating a mix, and then recording that mix. Or just for use as a live digital multitrack.
Of course, other digital recorders are available |
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Post by moruial on Jan 30, 2021 16:24:45 GMT
It sure is a nice thing, but way out of my price range as of the late order of modules  but I don't know, looks a bit too much menu diving for my taste. I'm in no hurry to get new stuff, I just wanted to have pepole's opinion on what reverb they like or would fit my "needs".
About pedal, I'm not against them and I get the point with effect chain, it looks like a very interesting things to do and I can see what you make out of it, but I don't know, pedal are small and they doesnt seems appealing to me right now. Not that I won't ever get some, but it was just not for my tatse at the moment, things may change  |
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Post by Lugia on Jan 31, 2021 1:03:12 GMT
Actually, decent pedals don't need to be hideously expensive. Back around this time last year, I got awakened to the knowledge that there were all of these Chinese pedals that could be had for cheap AND which often had some unusual capabilities. For example, the Mosky Spring Reverb is a cheap little thing, costs under $30...and while it sounds very little like any of my own springs, it DOES have a very weird capability: feedback emulator. If you run the "Dwell" on it too high, pure tones inputted to this stompbox will drive the digital reverb circuit into self-resonance!
A couple of others that I've gotten include the Biyang Ripple Space (tap tempo delay + three reverb models in a normal-sized stompbox) and the Gokko Creepy/Caline Snakebite (same OEM circuit), which has a semi-resonant filter onboard to generate weird resonances in the reverb field.
And then, the mackdaddy of ALL fuzzboxes: the Cuvave FUZZ. $30, and you can have a velcro fuzz that's even NASTIER than the one used on Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit in the Sky". I kid you not. In fact, if Robert could hook up with Cuvave (yes, they WILL OEM) and get some slightly altered circuitboard versions that could be moduled, this would be MY pick for an AE distorter. It goes from zero to OHMYEFFINGAWD, and if you could CV that fuzz level, this would be a real brainwrencher!
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Post by Gaëtan on Feb 1, 2021 6:18:11 GMT
Alternatively, check your local classifieds and go watch/read reviews if you don't know the pedal. There's often ample choice just there. I've found that it is a great way to 1)discover new gear 2)limit your GAS 3)be more wallet/planet-friendly
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Post by tIB on Feb 6, 2021 7:26:47 GMT
The kurzweil rumour is one to keep an eye out for - they're quite rare but I've seen them go for prices similar to the target as they are a little under the radar. Amazing reverbs.
That zoom ms70 is a steal at the price they can be had for - no brainier.
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Post by ean on Feb 20, 2021 1:24:41 GMT
Anyone use reverb. com? I recently got a Yamaha SPX 1000 for 150 pounds. I haven't had time to learn it yet, but it sounds promising.
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Post by admin on Feb 20, 2021 1:45:34 GMT
Anyone use reverb. com? I recently got a Yamaha SPX 1000 for 150 pounds. I haven't had time to learn it yet, but it sounds promising. Unfortunately most things on Reverb.com are not in Australia and shipping makes them prohibitive. Here we use mainly Gumtree.com.au and various Facebook groups. |
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Post by ean on Feb 20, 2021 2:03:42 GMT
Unfortunately most things on Reverb.com are not in Australia and shipping makes them prohibitive. Here we use mainly Gumtree.com.au and various Facebook groups.
Hopefully that works out just as good.
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Post by NightMachines on Feb 20, 2021 20:57:49 GMT
Wanted to add another pedal to the conversation: the Mooer Ocean Machine a dual Delay, Reverb and Looper for under 200€ new.
It has lots of knobs and is super hands-on, so I have never used it on the floor, but on the desk next to my synths. It’s also easy to use, has lots of algorithms and apparently it can also be controlled via MIDI, although I’ve never tried that.
EDIT: an inexpensive rack effect which I have owned too is the Lexicon MX200. Can be found for around 100€ used. Stereo/parallel/serial config, MIDI and lots of effects including delays and reverb.
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Post by tIB on Feb 20, 2021 21:38:33 GMT
Some of the old Dynacord stuff can be had pretty cheap - is it the dn78 that has weird reverb and delay?
Edit: drs78
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Post by Jihel on Feb 20, 2021 21:39:23 GMT
+1 for the lexicon MX200 !
I had forgotten this effect; I had used it on a few tracks and it's a great FX.
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Post by tIB on Feb 20, 2021 21:45:05 GMT
I had the lexiconml mpx500 - that one was pretty dull.
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Post by tIB on Feb 20, 2021 21:48:59 GMT
The ensoniq dp2 was another I had that had decent rep but wasn't great. Lots of folk liked it and the 4 though, and you might get the 2 within budget.
The kurzweil rumour I mentioned earlier has the same reverbs as the ksp8, which is incredible... a different level to all the other reverbs I've used, eventide h3000 aside (though beats that in realism as opposed to far out spaces).
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Post by moruial on Feb 20, 2021 23:41:40 GMT
I've saw a Lexicon MX300 for under 100€. is it also worth it as the MX200?
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but I don't know, looks a bit too much menu diving for my taste.
